Moldy Monday continues.

  • squirrel@lemmy.blahaj.zoneMEnglish
    86·
    1 year ago

    The “”“alpha male’s”“” masculinity is so fragile, they threw a conniption when seeing a picture of a fit woman.

    • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOPEnglish
      73·
      1 year ago

      I have a personal hypothesis that self-proclaimed alpha [males] may feel the same gender dysphoria that trans folk do, only it is the sensation that they present less masculine than they actually do, so in their effort to attaining a little bit of machismo they go way overboard.

      It’s similar I think to the way Donald Trump can be President of the United States, and still feel fragile and unworthy.

      • Windex007@lemmy.world
        24·
        1 year ago

        Lol, so if I’m hearing you right, people who yap endlessly about “being alpha” are “beta to alpha trans”?

      • glilimith@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        9·
        1 year ago

        I’m pretty sure it’s dysmorphia rather than dysphoria. Dysphoria is rooted in an accurate picture of yourself and dysmorphia in an inaccurate one. If a guy starts going to the gym because the idea of not being able to bridal carry his girlfriend makes him feel unmanly, I’d agree that’s some flavor of gender dysphoria. On the other hand, someone like the liver king thinking he still doesn’t have enough muscle is definitely body dysmorphia.

        But I’d agree that (similar to dysphoria) the so-called alphas often have dysmorphia of more than just the body - they worry they come across unmanly in all ways of their presentation, regardless of how much “masculine energy” they’re already putting out.

      • Tiltinyall@beehaw.org
        9·
        1 year ago

        This is an understatement. History tells many tales that have passed through the ages that men in this instance have still not learned.

      • Septimaeus@infosec.pub
        4·
        1 year ago

        Yeah this is a favorite pet theory of mine as well, partly because I like imagining guys like Andrew Tate protesting being labeled “trans alpha” or whatever, but also because it’s just a fact that many cis people experience a form of gender dysphoria and commonly seek hormone therapy for it at early ages.

        I’ve found that comparison usually clicks with uninitiated cis people immediately, even when they’ve only heard othering and alarmist narratives up to that point.

  • Rozaŭtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    68·
    1 year ago

    If the West falling means we get more fit women with abs, good. Let it all crash down.

    • laughterlaughter@lemmy.world
      28·
      1 year ago

      I don’t find abs in women attractive. But if women want to have them, and others want to admire them, who am I to stop them?

      • JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee
        19·
        1 year ago

        If more people had this attitude towards harmless things that don’t suit their tastes we’d live in a far less hostile world. Thanks for being a decent person!

    • disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world
      67·
      1 year ago

      I thought it was a little unsettling that their legs appear to be on backwards.

    • norimee@lemmy.world
      41·
      1 year ago

      I guess, because its very hard for biological women to get abs like that. The muscles are just different. Not impossible, but way, way harder then for men and therefore quite rare.

      And we all know, its very scary for bigots to even look at trans people. They might have to wash their eyes with soap now.

      • SorryforSmelling@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        36·
        1 year ago

        just wanna add that it is easier to get them with testosterone. i think it makes sense to make that distinction here since there are literal cis women body builder who take it as performance enhancing drugs.

        • norimee@lemmy.world
          10·
          1 year ago

          Interesting. I wasn’t sure if it gets harder for trans women, when they are on estrogen. Do they loose the abs?

          • SorryforSmelling@lemmy.blahaj.zone
            10·
            1 year ago

            depends on the order. if you build abs on testosterone (t) then go on estrogen (e) then you just can with relatively easily upkeep them. if you went on e before working out, its just as hard as for cis women. so hardcore cis women body builder go on t for a short time (some weeks) to get big muscles easier before retuning to e.

            • garbagebagel@lemmy.world
              4·
              1 year ago

              I’m gonna ask for t for totally cis reasons now. I’m definitely a body builder and absolutely not an 🥚.

              • megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                3·
                1 year ago

                So, it’s not exactly easily available for workout purposes, but, much like antibiotics, aquarium and fish farm suppliers are not bound by the normal laws of pharmaceuticals but are bound by food safety to make sure the stuff is pure and uncontaminated.

                (source: I have family who work in fish farming)

      • QualifiedKitten@lemmy.world
        18·
        1 year ago

        I think it’s less that the muscles are different, and more about body fat percentage and maybe distribution. You could have the strongest core in the world, but if there’s a layer of fat on top of your abs, they won’t have this visible definition.

        Also… Really rare to have boobs that big AND such low body fat, but all sorts of women get implants.

      • DaGeek247@fedia.io
        10·
        1 year ago

        I thought it was just regular old sexism; woman getting stronk has the men with fragile egos feeling scared.

      • alx@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        9·
        1 year ago

        Could you clarify for a sec what you actually mean by “biological women”?

          • alx@lemmy.blahaj.zone
            10·
            1 year ago

            The simple fact that you don’t know people’s genetic material, maybe. Just use “cis women“ if you want to talk about cis women and avoid heavily transphobic wording. Gender isn’t related to (assumed) chromosomes

          • Match!!@pawb.socialEnglish
            3·
            1 year ago

            xx chromosomes is not the best predictor here, cis woman hormone levels would be closer. see de la chapelle

        • hedgehog@ttrpg.network
          13·
          1 year ago

          I interpreted “biological” in this context to refer to women who’ve been impacted by the difference i hormones, i.e., a cis woman with average amounts of estrogen / testosterone would qualify, as would a trans woman who has been on estrogen for a couple years. Sort of a “people for whom the following statement is relevant” kind of an adjective.

      • GarfGirl [she/her]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        4·
        1 year ago

        In future I’d advise using the term cis woman instead of biological woman because biological woman has a history of being used as a transphobic term by TERFs to delegitimise trans people, especially in the UK.

        • norimee@lemmy.world
          1·
          1 year ago

          Yeah, I wasn’t sure about how to differentiate it. English is not my natural language.

          I disagree about using “cis” in this context though. I wasn’t sure how much of the effects are hormonal and if it is the same for trans men. And its also true for non binary and genderfluid persons. So cis seemed to exclude many.

          I got curious and looked into it and there were some helpful comments too. It turns out it’s mostly about the estrogen. So this means cis women, xx-chomosome non binary and gender fluid people (as long as they are not substituting hormons), trans women on estrogen and trans men who do not substitute testosterone.

          So that would mean instead of “biological women” it would be “hormonal female” I guess, or what is the correct for that?

    • Che Banana@beehaw.org
      10·
      1 year ago

      sweaty 6 pack made their pants tight, and monkey brain confused as only men should have 6 pack abs…ergo they may have caught the gay

  • Kaityy@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    54·
    1 year ago

    drooling, sweating, crying, moaning, throwing up, flying, levitating, spinning, turning inside out, achieving enlightenment, …

    cat speaking into microphone, caption "would"

    • lightnsfw@reddthat.com
      29·
      1 year ago

      Because the woman makes an effort to take care of herself and it makes them feel shitty about being lazy.

    • Pero@lemm.eeEnglish
      10·
      1 year ago

      Because they are afraid she’d absolutely dominate them? Freaking AlPHa MalEs.

  • TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.comEnglish
    40·
    1 year ago

    What is so crazy is that a lot of these folks look up to Sparta because of its dedication to physical conditioning. But of the people that traveled to Sparta we know that they wrote of watching the women of Sparta exercise because they were known to be strong, fast, and beautiful because of their exercise and physical conditioning was expected of them even as slave owning elites.

    This person should be lauded for their dedication to conditioning and feared for their ability to Kegel a steel girder asunder. And they probably don’t even own one slave outright so it is even that more amazing.

    • VaultBoyNewVegas@lemmy.world
      9·
      1 year ago

      Spartan men where also known to be regularly fucking each other. It was seen as a way of bonding between men when training.

      • Glytch@lemmy.world
        5·
        1 year ago

        You fight harder for the man next to you when he gives good dick.

    • rozwud@beehaw.org
      17·
      1 year ago

      I’m a bi/pan woman and yes, that is an objective truth.

    • laughterlaughter@lemmy.world
      4·
      1 year ago

      Because it looks manly.

      It’s like when they show a man with perfectly round manboobs. Something primal in me would say “I’d motorboard those!”

        • LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world
          3·
          1 year ago

          Testosterone. I mean as a straight guy I love strong women but like, there is definitely a correlation between testosterone and muscle mass.

  • fossilesque@mander.xyzEnglish
    32·
    1 year ago

    I miss being fit. Muscle mommies are underrated. All the endorphins. First thing I’m going to do off a grad student salary is get a personal trainer. Fitness makes me feel normal and happy. I lost my six pack here, foo.

  • Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world
    31·
    1 year ago

    She has an absolutely statue-esque physique. These chuds are so fragile. This intimidates them.

  • capital@lemmy.world
    30·
    1 year ago

    More muscle mommies please.

    Edit: realized this is a lgbtq group… I’m a straight dude and love this pic.