Moldy Monday continues.

  • squirrel@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    86·
    5 months ago

    The “”“alpha male’s”“” masculinity is so fragile, they threw a conniption when seeing a picture of a fit woman.

    • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOPEnglish
      73·
      5 months ago

      I have a personal hypothesis that self-proclaimed alpha [males] may feel the same gender dysphoria that trans folk do, only it is the sensation that they present less masculine than they actually do, so in their effort to attaining a little bit of machismo they go way overboard.

      It’s similar I think to the way Donald Trump can be President of the United States, and still feel fragile and unworthy.

      • Windex007@lemmy.world
        24·
        5 months ago

        Lol, so if I’m hearing you right, people who yap endlessly about “being alpha” are “beta to alpha trans”?

      • glilimith@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        9·
        5 months ago

        I’m pretty sure it’s dysmorphia rather than dysphoria. Dysphoria is rooted in an accurate picture of yourself and dysmorphia in an inaccurate one. If a guy starts going to the gym because the idea of not being able to bridal carry his girlfriend makes him feel unmanly, I’d agree that’s some flavor of gender dysphoria. On the other hand, someone like the liver king thinking he still doesn’t have enough muscle is definitely body dysmorphia.

        But I’d agree that (similar to dysphoria) the so-called alphas often have dysmorphia of more than just the body - they worry they come across unmanly in all ways of their presentation, regardless of how much “masculine energy” they’re already putting out.

      • Tiltinyall@beehaw.org
        9·
        5 months ago

        This is an understatement. History tells many tales that have passed through the ages that men in this instance have still not learned.

      • Septimaeus@infosec.pub
        4·
        5 months ago

        Yeah this is a favorite pet theory of mine as well, partly because I like imagining guys like Andrew Tate protesting being labeled “trans alpha” or whatever, but also because it’s just a fact that many cis people experience a form of gender dysphoria and commonly seek hormone therapy for it at early ages.

        I’ve found that comparison usually clicks with uninitiated cis people immediately, even when they’ve only heard othering and alarmist narratives up to that point.

    • laughterlaughter@lemmy.world
      28·
      5 months ago

      I don’t find abs in women attractive. But if women want to have them, and others want to admire them, who am I to stop them?

      • JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee
        19·
        5 months ago

        If more people had this attitude towards harmless things that don’t suit their tastes we’d live in a far less hostile world. Thanks for being a decent person!

    • norimee@lemmy.world
      41·
      6 months ago

      I guess, because its very hard for biological women to get abs like that. The muscles are just different. Not impossible, but way, way harder then for men and therefore quite rare.

      And we all know, its very scary for bigots to even look at trans people. They might have to wash their eyes with soap now.

      • SorryforSmelling@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        36·
        6 months ago

        just wanna add that it is easier to get them with testosterone. i think it makes sense to make that distinction here since there are literal cis women body builder who take it as performance enhancing drugs.

        • norimee@lemmy.world
          10·
          6 months ago

          Interesting. I wasn’t sure if it gets harder for trans women, when they are on estrogen. Do they loose the abs?

          • SorryforSmelling@lemmy.blahaj.zone
            10·
            6 months ago

            depends on the order. if you build abs on testosterone (t) then go on estrogen (e) then you just can with relatively easily upkeep them. if you went on e before working out, its just as hard as for cis women. so hardcore cis women body builder go on t for a short time (some weeks) to get big muscles easier before retuning to e.

            • garbagebagel@lemmy.world
              4·
              5 months ago

              I’m gonna ask for t for totally cis reasons now. I’m definitely a body builder and absolutely not an 🥚.

              • megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                3·
                5 months ago

                So, it’s not exactly easily available for workout purposes, but, much like antibiotics, aquarium and fish farm suppliers are not bound by the normal laws of pharmaceuticals but are bound by food safety to make sure the stuff is pure and uncontaminated.

                (source: I have family who work in fish farming)

      • QualifiedKitten@lemmy.world
        18·
        6 months ago

        I think it’s less that the muscles are different, and more about body fat percentage and maybe distribution. You could have the strongest core in the world, but if there’s a layer of fat on top of your abs, they won’t have this visible definition.

        Also… Really rare to have boobs that big AND such low body fat, but all sorts of women get implants.

      • DaGeek247@fedia.io
        10·
        6 months ago

        I thought it was just regular old sexism; woman getting stronk has the men with fragile egos feeling scared.

        • hedgehog@ttrpg.network
          13·
          5 months ago

          I interpreted “biological” in this context to refer to women who’ve been impacted by the difference i hormones, i.e., a cis woman with average amounts of estrogen / testosterone would qualify, as would a trans woman who has been on estrogen for a couple years. Sort of a “people for whom the following statement is relevant” kind of an adjective.

      • GarfGirl [she/her]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        4·
        5 months ago

        In future I’d advise using the term cis woman instead of biological woman because biological woman has a history of being used as a transphobic term by TERFs to delegitimise trans people, especially in the UK.

        • norimee@lemmy.world
          1·
          5 months ago

          Yeah, I wasn’t sure about how to differentiate it. English is not my natural language.

          I disagree about using “cis” in this context though. I wasn’t sure how much of the effects are hormonal and if it is the same for trans men. And its also true for non binary and genderfluid persons. So cis seemed to exclude many.

          I got curious and looked into it and there were some helpful comments too. It turns out it’s mostly about the estrogen. So this means cis women, xx-chomosome non binary and gender fluid people (as long as they are not substituting hormons), trans women on estrogen and trans men who do not substitute testosterone.

          So that would mean instead of “biological women” it would be “hormonal female” I guess, or what is the correct for that?

    • Che Banana@beehaw.org
      10·
      5 months ago

      sweaty 6 pack made their pants tight, and monkey brain confused as only men should have 6 pack abs…ergo they may have caught the gay

  • Kaityy@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    54·
    5 months ago

    drooling, sweating, crying, moaning, throwing up, flying, levitating, spinning, turning inside out, achieving enlightenment, …

    cat speaking into microphone, caption "would"

    • lightnsfw@reddthat.com
      29·
      5 months ago

      Because the woman makes an effort to take care of herself and it makes them feel shitty about being lazy.

    • Lad@reddthat.com
      27·
      5 months ago

      Some guys feel emasculated when they can’t make a beautiful woman like them. So the only way they can feel like they’ve taken some power back is to belittle and talk down beautiful women.

    • Pero@lemm.eeEnglish
      10·
      5 months ago

      Because they are afraid she’d absolutely dominate them? Freaking AlPHa MalEs.

  • TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.comEnglish
    40·
    5 months ago

    What is so crazy is that a lot of these folks look up to Sparta because of its dedication to physical conditioning. But of the people that traveled to Sparta we know that they wrote of watching the women of Sparta exercise because they were known to be strong, fast, and beautiful because of their exercise and physical conditioning was expected of them even as slave owning elites.

    This person should be lauded for their dedication to conditioning and feared for their ability to Kegel a steel girder asunder. And they probably don’t even own one slave outright so it is even that more amazing.

  • fossilesque@mander.xyzEnglish
    32·
    5 months ago

    I miss being fit. Muscle mommies are underrated. All the endorphins. First thing I’m going to do off a grad student salary is get a personal trainer. Fitness makes me feel normal and happy. I lost my six pack here, foo.

  • capital@lemmy.world
    30·
    5 months ago

    More muscle mommies please.

    Edit: realized this is a lgbtq group… I’m a straight dude and love this pic.