Someone at work that used to be my direct manager had a meeting with me to introduce themselves. They didn’t recognize me at all and I didn’t want to out myself by disclosing who I was, so I went along with it.

I don’t like lying, and when they asked about my work history I was honest even though it created immediate suspicion (how could we have not worked together given when I started working and my job experience?), and I just shrugged. It’s obviously a kind of deception to not out myself, and I don’t like that - but my instincts say it’s better in this context to not out myself.

Probably relevant to the context is that the boss is male, older, conservative, and an immigrant from a non-Western culture that is not open minded about these things.

I am pretty sure based on things they have said in the past that they wouldn’t be tolerant of a trans person.

Anyway, to my trans elders: how have you handled situations like this?

  • UberKitten@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    30·
    4 months ago

    I think the smile and shrug strategy is the best option here! Just think of it as affirming, since he doesn’t recognize you at all.

    • dandelion (she/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOPEnglish
      13·
      4 months ago

      ha, thanks - good to know you think it’s OK 😅

      I guess I’m worried if he finds out later from someone else at work (I worked here pre-transition and most people where I work remember me from before I transitioned). Besides fear of his anti-trans bias, I don’t want him to feel like I lied to him (but maybe I just can’t help that).

      • ThotDragon@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        8·
        4 months ago

        My guess is he would feel like you lied regardless of if you told him upfront or he found out later. It’s just not worth outing yourself.

  • Evkob (they/them)@lemmy.caEnglish
    24·
    4 months ago

    I’ve never had to deal with this, but my take is that you shouldn’t feel bad for not offering up information, especially in a context where you don’t necessarily feel safe to do so.

    I wouldn’t really consider this to be lying, either. Your bosses or coworkers don’t have a right to know you’re trans. Like, I don’t share my spiritual beliefs with anyone at work, for example. That doesn’t make me a liar. You’re entitled to your privacy, even more so when revealing something could be harmful for you.

    Best of luck navigating this, it sounds like a rather tricky situation to be in.

    • dandelion (she/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOPEnglish
      13·
      4 months ago

      thank you, that’s helpful ❤️

      Even if they don’t have a right to know I’m trans (completely get that, it’s my private medical situation), there is a sense that I’m intentionally withholding truth relevant to the context, e.g. by going along and pretending I didn’t know him, I’m at least being some kind of dishonest - I used to work for this person and I know them well, they should remember me.

      And while it’s risky and harmful to out myself in this situation, it’s also risky to not be honest, since there’s a good chance he could learn who I was before from just talking to people, since everyone here knew me pre-transition and anyone could tell him (and there are plenty of anti-trans people who know me who would be willing to do so, or even do so accidentally).

  • Ada@lemmy.blahaj.zoneMEnglish
    16·
    4 months ago

    The first time it happened to me, was 5 or 6 years ago now, before the climate turned as hostile as it is now. I work for a large organisation, and the people I work with all know I’m trans because I’m open about it, but there are many folk who I don’t work directly with, who didn’t know about my transition, because despite being open about being trans, we simply don’t encounter each other often.

    In any case, I just made it clear that I remembered him, and mentioned the project we had worked together on a few years before the encounter. Told him that I was still working in the same area with the same folks. I could see him trying to work out who I was. I didn’t lie, but I didn’t out myself. I just let him struggle to remember me.

    I have no idea if he ever did work it out, because I haven’t encountered him again since.

  • OldEggNewTricks@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    7·
    4 months ago

    People who in theory know me quite well have failed to recognize me (at first, at least), and I’ll go along with re-meeting them. I think that’s fine: I’m a totally different person now from who I was in the past, notwithstanding that we have a shared history. I don’t think you owe it to anyone to “come clean” about having met them before: there’s nothing wrong with starting fresh, and if challenged later on you can say exactly the same thing: you’re a different person now.

  • Taalnazi@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3·
    4 months ago

    Personally what I heard people do, is:

    to people you know would be def allies, disclose if you want; and to those that one is unsure about, try to run with it. Those I think would not be, you might as well not disclose. But always, this goes: never feel bad for not disclosing. Your safety goes above everything.

    For like online dating, I heard people say they disclose before starting something. If they then say, “even better” in a creepy tone (chaser), or something like “ew, disgusting/oh so you’re a (wrong gender) in (right gender)'s clothes” (transphobe), that’s a sign to avoid them.