• astutemural@midwest.socialEnglish
    121·
    2 days ago

    This really gets into the foundational expectations of the setting.

    In a reality structured to allow for Heroes, a leader must be one, or else be replaced by the next one to stroll through.

    • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social
      5·
      2 days ago

      Hero might be the wrong word except in the traditional sense of demigod. There’s an implicit positive moral judgement in the term that being a monarch has very little to do with.

      I’d also argue that it’s more that monarchy by its own self justification is based on the idea that the king protects, and therefore effectively owns, his subjects. A king might do that by effective governance however. If they can’t do it personally they’d need the loyalty of a champion, for example.

  • KoboldCoterie@pawb.socialEnglish
    30·
    3 days ago

    It seems like any sufficiently rich person, like a monarch, could essentially have someone on staff - maybe multiple people - whose entire job is to periodically cast True Resurrection, naming the rich individual. If they aren’t dead, the spell fails; if they are, they come back to life, and can name their assassin.

    • bob_lemon@feddit.org
      8·
      2 days ago

      Assuming D&D 5e rules, this is easily countered by casting Gentle Repose on the corpse every 10 days, or any other method of preventing natural decay.

      True Resurrection can only create a new body if the original no longer exists.

      • KoboldCoterie@pawb.socialEnglish
        2·
        2 days ago

        I guess this comes down to DM fiat as for what constitutes “touching” the creature. For example, what if the person casting the spell had a hair sample, or a severed finger or some other item from the monarch’s body, which they were also taking any of those steps to prevent decay of?

        The 3rd Edition version of the spell is even more ambiguous. RAW, it doesn’t prevent you from “unambiguously identifying” the creature through a means other than touching the body even if the body still exists.

        • 𝕱𝖎𝖗𝖊𝖜𝖎𝖙𝖈𝖍@lemmy.world
          3·
          2 days ago

          For example, what if the person casting the spell had a hair sample, or a severed finger or some other item from the monarch’s body,

          RAW and RAI that wouldn’t work, otherwise you could cast Inflict Wounds on someone by merely having a strand of hair from them. The RAW answer would be to have someone cast Contingency + Gentle Repose, though at that point you may as well add in a teleport or something instead

        • its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          1·
          2 days ago

          Once those items are removed from the body they become a separate object. Maybe useful in divination, but not touching the body. If this were true the party could just cut off some hair hand it to the cleric and all their touch spells would be infinite range.

          • KoboldCoterie@pawb.socialEnglish
            2·
            2 days ago

            Okay, so, thought experiment. Someone gets cut into a lot of pieces. What do you have to touch to resurrect them? The largest piece? Any piece? No piece, the body is destroyed? What constitutes ‘destroyed’? If getting cut into pieces counts, then how much of the body has to be missing?

            RAW doesn’t really adequately address this situation.

            • its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone
              1·
              2 days ago

              My comment was about the plan for gentle repose, but if you’re talking about the resurrection spell it does have text that overcomes this problem, because it regenerates any lost limbs.

              • KoboldCoterie@pawb.socialEnglish
                1·
                2 days ago

                Sure, but… which piece gets regenerated? The one you touch?

                In that case, why couldn’t the spell be cast on the severed finger to regenerate an entire body attached to it?

                • its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                  2·
                  2 days ago

                  It can. My problem was using gentle repose on a severed finger. Looking back it seems like that might not be what you were suggesting. If so my mistake.

  • Archpawn@lemmy.world
    6·
    3 days ago

    Nobody would rule by birthright in a D&D world. Any leader of a country would have access to Clone, and would have no need for inheritance.

    • I Cast Fist@programming.dev
      6·
      2 days ago

      Funny thing, there was a 2e setting called Birthright, which pretty much made the game about developing land as a lord, rather than dungeon delving

        • Archpawn@lemmy.world
          1·
          2 days ago

          I thought this was going to be spam. I recommend saying what you’re posting a link to. Or at least something that makes it clear you’re replying to a specific comment instead of posting that at random.

          • VerseAndVermin@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            2 days ago

            I responded to his comment about the Birthright setting with a video on the Birthright setting. I suppose I could have been more clear, but I definitely did respond to someone and did not post at random.

            Funny thing, there was a 2e setting called Birthright, which pretty much made the game about developing land as a lord, rather than dungeon delving

  • Sundray@lemmus.orgEnglish
    11·
    3 days ago

    “Nanomachines Invulnerability, son.”