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Hooverx@lemm.ee to World News@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 years ago

Putin could attack NATO in ‘5 to 8 years,’ German defense minister warns – POLITICO

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Putin could attack NATO in ‘5 to 8 years,’ German defense minister warns – POLITICO

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Hooverx@lemm.ee to World News@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 years ago
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Putin could attack NATO in ‘5 to 8 years,’ German defense minister warns
www.politico.eu
Europe sounds the alarm amid growing concern that the Russian president’s veiled threats against the military alliance could turn real.
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  • Shotgun_Alice@lemmy.worldEnglish
    381·
    2 years ago

    I hope he’s not still alive by then.

    • AbidanYre@lemmy.worldEnglish
      15·
      2 years ago

      Doesn’t he have cancer or was that just wishful thinking?

      • Death_Equity@lemmy.worldEnglish
        17·
        2 years ago

        He likely does or did, but the waters are too muddy to have certainty.

        • CleoTheWizard@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3·
          2 years ago

          Well, only for us. I’m sure the intelligence community knows.

      • wildginger@lemmy.myserv.oneEnglish
        11·
        2 years ago

        He had some weird medical issue that some people guess is cancer. But it just as easily could have been overly cautious covid protections for all the info that gets made public

      • CitizenKong@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4·
        2 years ago

        Maybe he’ll become as paranoid as Stalin and kill all his doctors. Once can hope. (Sucks for the doctors of course.)

  • Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    272·
    2 years ago

    And the more authoritarians win in Europe and the US the faster that time line is accelerated

  • Rapidcreek@lemmy.worldEnglish
    224·
    2 years ago

    That would be a big mistake by Putin. Could be his last. And it will take more than 8 years to even think about it. Ukraine has deflated the Russian military. It will take more than 10 years for them to rearm

    • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.worldEnglish
      7·
      2 years ago

      Last? He’ll be geriatric at that point.

      • HollandJim@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        2 years ago

        Then? He’s geriatric now.

        Ah, the miracles of plastic surgery and not moving your expression much.

  • aew360@lemm.eeEnglish
    131·
    2 years ago

    Ok but… how? With whom?

    • Chainweasel@lemmy.worldEnglish
      25·
      2 years ago

      They need those 5-8 years for the kids to get big enough to hold the weapons.

      • ivanafterall@kbin.social
        41·
        2 years ago

        But there won’t be many more coming after that, what with all their men dead and all.

        • Chainweasel@lemmy.worldEnglish
          5·
          2 years ago

          Nah, they still have all the kids they kidnapped from Ukraine and sent to Belarus

          • ivanafterall@kbin.social
            2·
            2 years ago

            Touche.

    • Avid Amoeba@lemmy.caEnglish
      61·
      2 years ago

      And with what weapons?

  • Passerby6497@lemmy.worldEnglish
    111·
    2 years ago

    So in Russian terms, that’s like 40-60 years right? We’re two years into a couple week special operation, so I doubt that they’ll be anywhere close to being able to take on an entire military alliance by 2030 when they can barely handle a single former client state.

  • avater@lemmy.worldEnglish
    123·
    2 years ago

    hope he is decaying by this time

    • ivanafterall@kbin.social
      5·
      2 years ago

      He’s already like 90% decayed.

      • avater@lemmy.worldEnglish
        62·
        2 years ago

        Still breathing too much if you ask me.

  • Godric@lemmy.worldEnglish
    5·
    2 years ago

    How do I link the Noncredibledefense community?

  • Toes♀@ani.socialEnglish
    62·
    2 years ago

    Probably more like 30, they’re about out of warm bodies.

  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldBEnglish
    51·
    2 years ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    An increasingly belligerent Russian President Vladimir Putin could attack the NATO military alliance in less than a decade, Germany’s Defense Minister Boris Pistorius warned.

    Following the Kremlin’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, Russia has upped its aggressive rhetoric against some of its neighbors — including the Baltic countries and Poland, which are all members of NATO, and Moldova — prompting top European defense officials to warn of the risk of a major conflict.

    Earlier this month, Sweden’s commander-in-chief General Micael Bydén similarly called on Swedes to “prepare themselves mentally” for war.

    In his interview with Der Tagesspiegel, Pistorius said the Swedish warnings were “understandable from a Scandinavian perspective,” adding that Sweden faced “an even more serious situation,” given its proximity to Russia.

    Lithuania’s Foreign Minister Gabrielius Landsbergis, an outspoken Putin critic who has been one of the loudest voices in support of Ukraine in the EU, on Thursday called on Europe to speed up preparations for more Russian aggression.

    “There’s a chance that Russia might not be contained in Ukraine,” Landsbergis told French newswire AFP at the World Economic Forum in Davos.


    The original article contains 494 words, the summary contains 179 words. Saved 64%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

  • A_A@lemmy.worldEnglish
    74·
    2 years ago

    Thanks for the 8 sources of these 3 (or more) related stories :

    From Germany you had 3 more sources which were :
    Russian spring offensive could lead to war with Nato, according to German defence scenario https://www.intellinews.com/russia-could-attack-nato-as-early-as-february-bild-reports-307785/

    Germany warns of Russian attack on NATO within ‘5-8 years’ https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/germany-warns-of-russian-attack-on-nato-within-5-8-years-/3113783

    Leaked German military documents laid out a doomsday scenario where Russia wins in Ukraine then invades Europe
    https://www.businessinsider.com/leaked-military-docs-envision-russia-war-nato-in-2024-2024-1

    2 from Poland :
    ‘Europe will be subject to a direct Russian attack in the next few years’ — Polish PM Tusk https://news.yahoo.com/europe-subject-direct-russian-attack-150500271.html

    Polish PM warns of possible Russian aggression against Europe https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/polish-pm-warns-of-possible-russian-aggression-1704315471.html

    and 2 from Estonia:
    Europe has 3-5 years to prepare for threat from Russia’s side - Estonian PM https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/01/15/7437368/

    Russia’s attack on NATO - Kaja Kallas says there is 3-5 years to prepare and calls for stopping Putin in Ukraine
    https://eng.obozrevatel.com/section-world/news-there-are-3-5-years-to-prepare-estonian-prime-minister-warned-of-possible-russian-aggression-against-nato-16-01-2024.html

    Edits : added the one i missed. 2nd ed: corrected source.

  • jinarched@lemm.eeEnglish
    3·
    2 years ago

    (x) Doubt

  • 🌱 🐄🌱 @lemmy.worldMEnglish
    21·
    2 years ago

    deleted by creator

  • noodle (he/him)@lemm.eeEnglish
    713·
    2 years ago

    yes guys, we get it

    • CALIGVLA@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      534·
      2 years ago

      Honestly the whole “putin bad” spam posting (not to mention scare mongering like this post) on the daily is getting tiresome to say the least. 😐

      • theprogressivist @lemmy.worldEnglish
        311·
        2 years ago

        He is bad. The fuck you talking about?

        • CALIGVLA@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          326·
          2 years ago

          Okay. Do I need to be reminded of it every single fucking day I log into this god forsaken site?

          • theprogressivist @lemmy.worldEnglish
            152·
            2 years ago

            Yup.

            • CALIGVLA@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              214·
              2 years ago

              Nope.

              • theprogressivist @lemmy.worldEnglish
                82·
                2 years ago

                Cry some more.

                • CALIGVLA@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                  18·
                  2 years ago

                  No u.

      • noodle (he/him)@lemm.eeEnglish
        91·
        2 years ago

        oh I’m all for reminding the public that he is bad on a regular basis. just maybe not in multiple posts revolving around the same issue at the same time.

  • jordanlund@lemmy.worldMEnglish
    714·
    2 years ago

    Same story is being reposted multiple times from different sources, this one is first so keeping it and removing the others.

    • Hooverx@lemm.eeOPEnglish
      172·
      2 years ago

      They’re different stories about different statements from different countries. Estonia, Germany, and Poland all independently made statements, not as a single joint statement.

      If this is a policy going forward, it should be listed as a rule.

      • A_A@lemmy.worldEnglish
        32·
        2 years ago

        deleted // moving as a top comment

      • Mr_Blott@lemmy.worldEnglish
        38·
        2 years ago

        There are two types of propaganda, this is one of them

      • jordanlund@lemmy.worldMEnglish
        615·
        2 years ago

        It’s the same story. “Russia plans to attack NATO”, we get it, you don’t have to re-post it 6 times. 24 hour ban for arguing the point and abusive posting

        • mazigoth@lemmus.orgBannedEnglish
          33·
          2 years ago

          Removed by mod

  • Radicalized@lemmy.oneEnglish
    327·
    2 years ago

    I can almost guarantee that NATO will do some tricky “in order to defend NATO countries we must attack Russia first” business.

    • GoodEye8@lemm.eeEnglish
      9·
      2 years ago

      Appropriate user name.

      • Radicalized@lemmy.oneEnglish
        12·
        2 years ago

        Yeah, that’s why I took this username.

        • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          2 years ago

          🥔

          Enjoy potato and take a day off.

    • nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.caEnglish
      7·
      2 years ago

      When that doesn’t happen I can definitely guarantee that you will learn nothing and pretend like you never held this moronic opinion.

      • Radicalized@lemmy.oneEnglish
        16·
        2 years ago

        “I can’t possible be on the bad guy team…. We’re the good guys!!”

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_bombing_of_the_Chinese_embassy_in_Belgrade?wprov=sfti1#

        https://www.warhistoryonline.com/instant-articles/usa-only-17-years-of-peace.html

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d’%C3%A9tat?wprov=sfti1

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Pigs_Invasion?wprov=sfti1

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_occupation_of_Haiti?wprov=sfti1

        … Gosh, I’m beginning to think that a US-lead NATO might not be good for global peace and that the US government might be the most reactionary, anti-progressive polity in the modern world. I’m beginning to think that I’ve been fed lies all my life by media manufacturing consent for unjustifiable wars! Operation Desert Storm, Iraq War, WMDs, War on Terror, the Nakba, the second Nakba, the overthrow of the leftist Guatemalan government and subsequent ethnic cleansing of the Mayan people (if you want I can keep going.) It’s almost like it has happened over and over again and Americans allies go along with it every single time because they stand to gain something from! It’s like any military organization made up of these psychopaths will only be used for destabilizing the developing world! It’s like our governments have an interest in keeping the rest of the world destabilized so that they and their supporting billionaires can profit from exploiting the world resources and labor.

        (Obligatory ‘Putin is a cunt’ because people on Lemmy lack the capability to think one person can hold both these political opinions at the same time)

        • nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.caEnglish
          4·
          2 years ago

          No part of that is relevant to your absurd claim .

    • kimpilled@infosec.pubEnglish
      4·
      2 years ago

      They said, while Russia is literally in the middle of doing the sort of invasion NATO is warning against.

    • lolcatnip@reddthat.comEnglish
      3·
      2 years ago

      Removed by mod

    • mazigoth@lemmus.orgBannedEnglish
      31·
      2 years ago

      Removed by mod

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