neuter your fucking cats
especially neuter your fucking outdoor cats
Cats shouldn’t be outdoors period.
Exactly. One of the most environmentally destructive forces of the modern era (and that’s saying something!). Caused dozens of extinctions.
Though humans are more destructive to their local and remote environments by a faaaaar margin but it is considered a serious crime to go around neutering them.
And cats being introduced everywhere and not properly managed is entirely on humans!
Not everywhere. Where is it a crime?
The mass sterilisation of disabled people and other “unfavourable” minorities comes to mind.
Wft? We were talking about street cats, right? Oh, wait I misread the comment I answered. I thought the second part went back to cat discussion 😅
Lions: “I’m not locked in here with you, you are locked in here with me”
Unless they already been part of the local ecosystem for a thousand years in your country. Then keeping them indoors causes problems instead.
kay…
Are outdoor cats even pets at that point
The people down voting this are troglodytes
Very cute, but cats should be neutered, particularly those outdoors and especially the males. Males can roam a fair distance and often only have a short lifespan in suburbia. This just creates an ongoing problem with strays and ferals.
Absolutely. And even if you don’t care that your cat is out there making kittens, it’s important to know that un-neutered males are much more likely to get into fights with other cats. A lot of the nastiest feline diseases spread through fighting, and fights result in injuries that can easily become infected. It’s not unheard of for males to lose eyes (or even whole limbs) to completely avoidable infections.
So neuter your damn cats. It has the potential to extend their lives significantly, and promotes a healthier cat population in general.
and if that’s still not enough of a reason, if they’re neutered before they start to spray they won’t develop that instinct but even if they already spray it won’t smell any more after they’ve been neutered
So the new one’s name is Robin?
Damian. :)
Catwoman
I have a cat named Robin.
Clearly, that’s Robin.
People who let cats roam are first class assholes. People who let unfixed cats roam are a threat.
What do you mean by roam ?
Somehow I get downvoted for asking a clarification. Not everybody is a native speaker, I’m not sure what roam means in this context, so I ask. Look at what OP did, they answered my question very clearly and without judgement.
Walk around the neighborhood. Cats are an invasive species. When I was growing up my neighbor had a paintball gun to shoot any cats that wandered into his yard cause they killed the birds at his bird feeder.
They are normally fine around farms and breweries but that’s because they are hunting things like mice that get into grain and such.
Cats should be kept indoors, but moreover your neighbor is a piece of shit and I hope he gets what he deserves. Get a super soaker you fucking monster, shooting someone’s pet with something that travels around 200 mph is a bad look. After he baited them at that, I understand that wasn’t his intention but the cats are just living by their basic instincts, it’s not their fault. If he really was interested in stopping them rather than being cruel humane traps are cheap, just do what normal fucking people do, catch it, drive it 5-10mi, and release it somewhere it’s no longer your problem, or drive it to the nearest no kill shelter. But no, can’t be a decent human, it’s more fun to break their ribs and possibly let them slowly internally bleed to death because they committed the crime of wanting to eat.
I’d rat him out for animal cruelty right now if I knew his name and location.
Found the serial killer in training.
Only a serial killer would protect birds?
heh whooosh.
Most monsters actually think they are the good guy BTW we know its you
Invasive where?
Everyone keeps saying they’re invasive, but like… They’ve been around for thousands of years and were around before we started domesticating them (or they started domesticating us, I guess).
And yes, they kill birds, but then other wild animals also kill other animals.
And yes I realize you’re on .ca so probably Canadian, but my point is, everyone seems to assume everyone on the Internet is North American. Plenty of us live in Europe, where cats are sort of a naturally occurring phenomenon.
Yeah but like most invasive species we brought them to places they dont live naturally. Other than a loose dog not much will even bother a cat in North American cities.
Nothing lives in cities naturally. Cities themselves just aren’t natural.
Where I come from, outdoors cats really don’t have a particularly long shelf life in cities and towns. Either they get hit by a car, or they wander to the forest and find something stronger than them
So how do we know this one is the bad kind or the ok kind?
It’s not the kind of cat, it’s the location
Do we know the location?
The location is north America, where letting cats roam is hazardous to the environment. Doesn’t mean the guy should shoot them but that’s why outdoor cats shouldn’t be a thing
It’s an American thing. Culturally there it’s expected that cats are kept indoors, and that any other view is unacceptable.
Whether they are neutered is another conversation
Cats are an invasive species in North America, they destroy avian wildlife.
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyall's_wren
Cats belong on leashed walks outside, not cooped up inside all day. Treat them like dogs.
Yeah it must be an American thing, we in the UK let our cats roam freely outside and it’s totally normal to see cats everywhere.
It’s a vestige of our culture war, where the sanctimonious blame individuals for behaviors that were normal in the recent past, heralding a couple data points as supreme truth, while ignoring the broader context and their own hypocrisies. In my opinion, if we are so overpopulated with cats and dogs, such that they cannot roam, people should not have cats or dogs. I’d argue that keeping a cat or dog locked up also makes one an asshole.
The road to extinction is pretty well set, so I don’t see the sense in casting ire upon understandable behaviors. Might as well try to get along on the descent, though I get why such a large subset of the population are salty. For the record, I don’t have a pet, because: overshoot.
Thats not universally american. Plenty of people in the states let their cats roam. The problem we have is people who think they are rescuing a cat when really they are stealing someones pet
I mean it’s an American thing to loudly proclaim that if you do anything other than have an indoor cat then you’re an awful person (see original OP of this thread), not appreciating that America is wildly different on this position than pretty much any other country in the world
American here. Clearly it’s not a “culturally expected” thing in my neighborhood.
That look. That perfect f u cat look. “Btw, this guy lives here now, too. Whatcha gonna do about it? Get food, peasant!”
“Hi meet your grandkid”
Wow this is incredible! I used to have a black and white cat that look very similar, and I also named him Batman!!
He was my childhood cat, he died almost 20 years ago. Maybe he is a reincarnation :). Crazy though. I gotta show this pic to my family…
Edit: I have a cat now named Robin
I also had a black and white cat named Batman. Shortened from Lord Battenberg (cake) man.
You better pet me and my son again and again
House cats shouldn’t even be outside
Strays who lived outside can’t be house-only cats anymore.
Absolutely they can. Perhaps not all of them but I have lots of first hand evidence that outdoor cats and even feral cats can become happy housecats.
Given every single shelter I’ve ever been to in Germany lists adoption requirements for each cat (one of them if they are a freeroamer or bot, i.e. need outside access) and would not let you adopt a cat if you can’t provide them, with the professionals at the shelter even pointing out that “taking away outside access from a cat can, depending on the cat, amount to factual animal abuse” (roughly translated)… yeah, sorry, but there’s zero chance any anecdote here could convince me.
I’ve already posted an example on another reply. Right now they even got an additional box above the list stating that “most our current cats do not accept being held only indoors” (the green one), given that’s what most people look for. Most of them specifically state “Freigang” (Freeroam) as requirement.
Both mine were strays and are now happily indoor cats with a catio. It just requires an adjustment period.
I also follow all the local legislation (registration, neutering, etc.). So it can be done and may just depend on how adoption agencies in your state/country function.
Sure they can.
That goes against any knowledge and experiences available, I’ve never seen or heard of a single adoption centre who’d allow it either; if the cat is an outdoor cat they’ll never let you take it unless you can let it out as well, and cats who’re accustomed to a secured balcony or a Catio also require it to be adopted. That’s why it’s important to raise a cat as indoor cat in the first place. Do you have any sort of proof of the opposite?
Adopted a cat that was a stray for 2 years and adoption center encouraged me to keep her as an indoor cat. As she has gotten older I have given her supervised outdoor time as in I am feet away from her at all times but for her first year she pretty happily lived in a studio apt without a balcony and whenever I had to bring her to the car she would get super panicked and nervous from being outside
I’d love to see this cat adoption center that advocates that any cats should be allowed to roam. Sounds pretty sus. Got a link?
Not any cats, but those who’re already accustomed to the outdoors. I’ve been to multiple animal shelters in Germany over the years, all of them had information about if a cat required access to the outdoors to be happy. And that was a requirement for adoption of those cats. You can see it here for example at the Hamburg shelter Süderstraße, the biggest one in the city. Every cat or group of cats has the “Haltungsanforderung” (adoption requirements) mentioned, most of them “Freigang” (“Freeroam”) since they often receive strays and there’re less people in the city who can provide that.
I’ve no clue where the hell you all live or how big your houses usually are, but despite the known heavoc freeroaming cats can cause: if they are freeroamers then, according to the professionals at the shelters I spoke with, suddenly keeping them in an average apartment (i.e. ~60m²) would be almost abuse and they will not let you adopt a cat if the cats individual requirements aren’t met.
And to be clear once more, the shelters don’t advocate for everyone to let their cats out. They advocate and educate so people won’t do it in the first place, BUT if a cat already knows the outside and would go mad inside they respect the animals’ requirements.
False…
“I am Batman.”
“This is also Batman, but smol.”
Why is He not called Batcat?
Batboye
