• Ashy@lemmy.wtf
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    6 months ago

    “NATO-aligned” they are full fucking NATO members. Why does news suck so hard these days?

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      6 months ago

      Probably bots. If you are part of an alliance, you are probably aligned, but that is not the way English speaking humans would talk.

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        6 months ago

        There are a cases like S. Korea and Japan that aren’t NATO members but are allies of US, so in these cases it could be considered. This article, however, is sloppy writing.

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          They are allies of the US but that doesn’t mean they will follow the US’s lead into war.

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    6 months ago

    Considering how the Russian Army has performed in Ukraine, I think a few nerf guns should keep the Baltic countries safe.

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    6 months ago

    Russian dictator Vladimir Putin continues to show that Russia is not interested in serious peace negotiations

    At least they call him out for being a dictator.

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    6 months ago

    Without doing the slightest of research: Are these recent pictures of Putin? To me, they’ve looked the same for ages. Are these just archive photos?

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    6 months ago

    He’s depleting all his munitions and bodies in Ukraine. Chance of multiple fronts right now is low at best.

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    6 months ago

    Well ofcourse he’s saying this stuff, it’s not like he can back down now. Sunk cost fallacy and so on… The thing about going to war though is that you need an army for that. Putin may be stubborn but I don’t think he’s stupid. Now is not the time to gamble with NATOs article 5.

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    6 months ago

    I call bullshit on this, This is nothing short of propaganda by think tank that is financed by the military industrial complex.

    Putin won’t dare NATO member countries, especially when he hasn’t finished with Ukraine.

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      6 months ago

      After the elections in 2024 the picture could be different. Putin’s long term strategy has been to weaken NATO by supporting NATO-skeptic parties. Depending on election outcomes there is a real possibility that key members fail to adhere to their Article 5 obligations

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    6 months ago

    Guess we’ll have to do nothing except condemn those nations to fight a bloody war again, sad

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      No they’re actually in NATO unlike Ukraine. If NATO didn’t defend them directly it would be the end of NATO. Even if Trump or someone uncooperative with NATO was president of the US, I think Europe would still engage in a collective defense if Russia started attacking EU countries.

      Supporting Ukraine now is the best way to prevent any of this from coming to pass though.

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        Supporting Ukraine now is the best way to prevent any of this from coming to pass though.

        Not gonna hold my breath that this means Ukraine gets more support, though. We’re dumb.

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        Very true.

        Assuming that Trump wins and somehow withdrawals us from NATO and only the EU fights Russia, there is going to be a ton of suck that is going to smack the US in the face after that, really quick.

        Here is a grim outlook, but is something that some right wing groups really want. It’s either a setup for a civil war or a dictatorship. Or both. This is a scenario, not what I believe will happen as it’s kind of extreme.

        Global trade is a real thing and many goods and services that Americans use are provided by the EU. A few major drug companies are based in Europe, so that is a start, so those are going to be the first to go if the EU withdrawals from any trade agreements.

        Many people don’t realize that a great number of components that the US uses for its weapons originate in the EU. This includes everything from missiles to basic components used in civilian firearms. (Gunpowder, primers, brass and bullets to name a few. It’s a lot. The US hasn’t fully recovered from the pandemic shortages in that regard, either.)

        China will likely put heavy restrictions on exports to the US in support of Russia. While this could be beneficial to the US in the long run, it will take years for the US to develop its own manufacturing to produce the quantity of cheap plastic disposable shit that Americans crave. Basic electronics prices will skyrocket since the availability of fake components will tank.

        Honestly, I could see the EU restricting business and exports to a much larger degree. Between the EU and China, they could completely tank the US economy and kill our stock markets. This will have global repercussions as the ouroboros must feed.

        This is a real end of the world kind of view, but the pandemic showed us how vulnerable global markets really are and how stupid humanity can get in some cases. It puts some absurd scenarios in very close proximity.

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          I don’t think the EU would restrict exports to the USA so much as be unable to provide them in a war.

          I also think that China would push its claim on Taiwan while Russia invades the EU to push the USA into a diplomatic corner.

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        6 months ago

        100% and considering the uk alone has the same defence budget as russie I think its highly unlikely putin would risk a conflict with even european nato by itself

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          The main issue when it comes to European defence is the fact that we don’t have the ammo factories and such located in europe itself, which is a major strategic risk

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            Sweden produces some things, like some shells for artillery. Currently if you place an order you only have to wait 5 years. That’s nothing in times of war and unrest, right? Right?