Community members in a Tennessee school district want to banish Satan from their children’s halls after the formation of a new club was announced.

The After School Satan Club (ASSC) wants to establish a branch in Chimneyrock elementary school in the Memphis-Shelby county schools (MSCS) district.

The ASSC is a federally recognized nonprofit organization and national after-school program with local chapters across the US. The club is associated with the Satanic Temple, though it claims it is secular and “promotes self-directed education by supporting the intellectual and creative interests of students”.

The Satanic Temple makes it clear its members do not actually worship the devil or believe in the existence of Satan or the supernatural. Instead Satan is used as a symbol of free will, humanism and anti-authoritarianism.

  • kromem@lemmy.worldEnglish
    743·
    2 years ago

    The number of adults in the US that think Satan is a literal being is way too fucking high.

    It started as an editor using ‘adversary’ in the place of what was probably the goddess Anat appealing the head of the pantheon to kill the son of the protagonist like in the earlier Canaanite A Tale of Aqhat as an intro into what was an adaptation of the also earlier Babylonian Theodicy in Job.

    But we couldn’t have a polytheistic holdover, so suddenly there was a supernatural ‘adversary’ (‘Satan’) in a story.

    Which in turn spawned fanfiction during the prophet ages where they referred to the supernatural adversary of Job.

    Then Hellenistic ideas around Hades (both the place and figure) get added into the mix, and we get the Enochian literature about fallen angels, where the guided katabasis influenced Virgil which later informs Dante’s Inferno.

    Then King James messes up translating Isaiah and the Latin for the morning star (Lucifer) gets mistaken for a proper name, further tying the supernatural adversary to being one of the Enochian fallen angels. And we get Milton’s Paradise Lost.

    It’s all just mistranslations and fanfiction.

    And yet millions of people believe it’s actually a thing so much so that they freak out at the idea of any references to it as literally being dangerous.

    In 2022.

    An age filled with things beyond the wildest imagination of those in antiquity dreaming up miracles and wonders.

    We’re so beyond fucked as a species.

    • phx@lemmy.world
      28·
      2 years ago

      To those people, if there’s no Devil then it means all the bad stuff in their heads and hearts is just them. All the temptations are them. All the hatred, including self-hatred is them. There’s no Devil that made them do it or think it, no external tempter or defiler to resist. They can’t take that.

    • cultsuperstar@lemmy.world
      111·
      2 years ago

      Well you can’t believe Satan is real without believing God is real, and that number is too high too.

      • DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe
        22·
        2 years ago

        Observe:

        I just did it.

        All I did was was choose to believe a different version of the fairy tale.

        For what’s it worth, it was a take on the “The Throne Is Empty” mythos, fucking Metatron, always lyin’

    • CoolMatt@lemmy.world
      4·
      2 years ago

      I understood some of these words.

      But that was fun to read

      • kromem@lemmy.worldEnglish
        14·
        2 years ago

        I expect the average person to know that there isn’t a supernatural evil being controlling the bad things that happen in the world.

  • Hoomod@lemmy.world
    722·
    2 years ago

    Satan accepts everyone

    Not his fault that God is picky

    • madcaesar@lemmy.world
      15·
      2 years ago

      God is the dickhead that puts a dangerous tree in the garden despite knowing exactly what’s going to happen. God is the asshole that wipes out everyone (even the animals) except one drunkard and his family because God apparently fucked up again. God is the one who creates a place of infinite punishment for finite crimes.

      God is the real villain of the Bible.

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
        6·
        2 years ago

        And Satan is the hero that fought an omnipotent being knowing he would lose because he wanted freedom more than he wanted victory.

      • Patches@sh.itjust.works
        5·
        2 years ago

        Member when he made bet the devil that a man would never give him up no matter how fucking miserable God made him? Job remembers

      • pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.world
        1·
        2 years ago

        Satan’s the one who tempted Eve to eat the apple, though. Without him, that tree would have been left alone.

    • Patches@sh.itjust.works
      12·
      2 years ago

      Satan doesn’t whisper “Believe in me”.

      He shouts “Believe in yourself”.

      Satan is rad as hell.

  • nicetriangle@kbin.social
    64·
    2 years ago

    The outrage these assholes are feeling is what the rest of us feel every time we see them trying to force their dogma into every facet of society.

  • Pratai@lemmy.ca
    47·
    2 years ago

    It would be sad how badly these idiots fail to see the irony when it’s spelled out for them if it wasn’t so funny.

  • badbytes@lemmy.world
    381·
    2 years ago

    Low IQ Christians never learn. They must be old dogs.

  • Gazumi@lemmy.world
    35·
    2 years ago

    Actively missing the point… “In a meeting with more than 40 pastors and other religious leaders, the district board chair, Althea E Greene, said: “Satan has no room in this district.””

  • BoastfulDaedra@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
    351·
    2 years ago

    If it wasn’t registered, “After School Satan Club” would be a great name for a punk band.

    • negativeyoda@lemmy.world
      14·
      2 years ago

      Watching the Church of Satan get exasperated when they’re tagged about this shit on Twitter never ceases to amuse me

      • TheRealKuni@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        2 years ago

        Says right beneath the infographic:

        “Blue Cheese fact” from “the LaVey Salad Dressing Test”, The Satanic Witch, 1971

      • slowwooderrunsdeep@lemmy.world
        1·
        2 years ago

        if liking blue cheese is gay then call me fabulous, idgaf. y’all can fight over your basic-ass ranch when the wings come out.

  • Facebones@reddthat.com
    27·
    2 years ago

    Reading the outrage comments always tickles me lol. Welcome to the point, bitches!

    • Ultraviolet@lemmy.worldEnglish
      16·
      2 years ago

      It’s a bit frustrating that it doesn’t make any of them actually reflect on their hypocrisy though. They just double down on the hypocrisy with no questions asked.

      • Facebones@reddthat.com
        2·
        2 years ago

        I’ve been saying it for years, through even the most liberal of us attacking me for it -

        It’s because this is and always has been the point and the end goal.

  • OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee
    24·
    2 years ago

    The uproar is the point.

    The Satanic Temple makes it clear its members do not actually worship the devil or believe in the existence of Satan or the supernatural.

    But somehow conservative Christians believe that there are huge swaths of people who agree that their religion is 100% correct but worship the weak bad guy character.

    (Which is not to mention that there are actually multiple bad guys who got combined, Satan and Lucifer and The Snake were originally different people)

    • flipht@kbin.social
      19·
      2 years ago

      This is a long standing joke - what do you call someone who believes in Satan?

      A Christian.

    • TigrisMorte@kbin.social
      4·
      2 years ago

      God is omniscient and thus knew exactly what Lucifer would do. Angels don’t have free will. Lucifer did exactly what God intended. God wanted Man to have free will. Free will requires the choice between good and evil. Man is the “bad guy” as well as the “good guy”.

      • dewritoninja@pawb.social
        7·
        2 years ago

        If god is omniscient they would know exactly what everyone is going to choose, nullifying free will entirely

        • TigrisMorte@kbin.social
          1·
          2 years ago

          Ah, but that is the point, until Man chose it hadn’t happened, it is the precognition paradox. Until the event occurs, what is known is all the possibilities.

          • Girru00@lemmy.world
            31·
            2 years ago

            That’s… just like your opinion man.

            Then god isnt omnipotent, cause you know, it lacks the power of whats actually to come and is only good at knowing all the hypotheticals. Or may be lacks omnicience, but one could argue that knowing all the possibilities counts.

            All that matters is that its lacking something, when it shouldnt

            • TigrisMorte@kbin.social
              1·
              2 years ago

              Spirituality is all opinion man.

              But no, it not lacking anything.

        • lolcatnip@reddthat.comEnglish
          01·
          2 years ago

          This is a great example of why I don’t believe free will is a coherent concept outside of religion. It’s basically a perk that negates God’s omniscience as it applies to you, but if you don’t believe in God, it’s meaningless.