(Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin, running for a new six-year term in an election that his opponents say is a parody of democracy, said on Tuesday that past U.S. elections had been rigged by postal voting.

“In the United States, previous elections were falsified through postal voting … they bought ballots for $10, filled them out, and threw them into mailboxes without any supervision from observers, and that’s it,” Putin said, without providing evidence.

    • gibmiser@lemmy.worldEnglish
      92·
      2 years ago

      Why would putin lie about such a thing? I’m going to blindly believe him since it confirms my existing beliefs.

      • meco03211@lemmy.worldEnglish
        50·
        2 years ago

        I mean, he does know a thing or two about rigged elections.

        • Echo Dot@feddit.ukEnglish
          21·
          2 years ago

          I don’t know, technically killing your opponents isn’t really rigging the election.

          Rigging an election is something subtle, and Putin doesn’t really do subtle. They don’t even bother to make their murders look like accidents anymore.

    • PugJesus@kbin.social
      576·
      2 years ago

      MAGA and tankies. I’d say strange bedfellows, but honestly, they’re not that different beyond what shade of red they prefer to be painted.

      • theprogressivist @lemmy.worldEnglish
        271·
        2 years ago

        they’re not that different beyond what shade of red they prefer to be painted.

        CCP Red or Kremlin Rouge

      • Hyperreality@kbin.social
        17·
        2 years ago

        Cosplay communists.

        No one who’s an actual communist would support Yeltsin and the Oligarchs’ friend Putin.

        • VikingHippie@lemmy.wtfEnglish
          5·
          2 years ago

          You’re discounting the many actual communists that are also actual idiots.

          Idiots who truly believe in communism, but also think that the fascist Russian government and the equally repressive Chinese one are that.

        • PugJesus@kbin.social
          243·
          2 years ago

          Considering we’re on Lemmy? In all likelihood, yes.

          • rockSlayer@lemmy.worldEnglish
            422·
            2 years ago

            Well, I gotta say that you’re the first person I’ve encountered that didn’t immediately feel shame for randomly bringing up a totally irrelevant political faction after that question. I suppose the next question is, what do you consider a tanky? Anyone left of democrats? Or do you have a more specific definition in mind?

            Edit: downvote me all you want, but this is a legitimate question. I’m a type of anarchist that advocates for mutual aid, industrial unionism, and a complete decentralization of power. I’ve been called a tanky because I support tenant unions.

            • cmbabul@lemmy.worldEnglish
              15·
              2 years ago

              I’m literally standing in the position you described and no one has ever called me a tankie, if you think China and the USSR were/are positive forces for common people, want to accelerate the collapse of the US, and/or have Anakin Skywalker tendencies (“then they should be made to”) you’re a tankie. If not you most likely aren’t a tankie

              • PugJesus@kbin.social
                82·
                2 years ago

                Don’t bother. Tankies and their apologists don’t argue in good faith.

                • rockSlayer@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  310·
                  2 years ago

                  Lmao, so you’re calling me a tanky now, because I dared to ask a relevant question about your opinion?

                  • PugJesus@kbin.social
                    82·
                    2 years ago

                    Sorry for not falling for the “I don’t know what a tankie even is here on the Fediverse, but I’m also 100% sure that they aren’t a problem and you’re exaggerating, pwease spoon-feed me what it means”

                • cmbabul@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  61·
                  2 years ago

                  Never heard of him so I couldn’t say one way or the other

                  • rockSlayer@lemmy.worldEnglish
                    33·
                    2 years ago

                    Fair enough I suppose. He’s a historian and political activist, and one of the most prominently published marxists in the later half of the 20th century. He wrote classics like Democracy for the Few, Black Shirts and Reds, A People’s History of Ancient Rome, Against Empire, To Kill a Nation, and many more. He was one of the faces of protest against the Vietnam War, and broke off his friendship with Sanders because Bernie supported the bombing of Yugoslavia.

            • krashmo@lemmy.worldEnglish
              131·
              2 years ago

              Aren’t you tired of conversations like this? It doesn’t matter what label any of us use to describe our political views. We don’t have the power to implement them. Those that do don’t give a fuck what we think. We’re all just yelling at the perceived other while we watch things deteriorate.

              • rockSlayer@lemmy.worldEnglish
                54·
                2 years ago

                Actually, I am. I’m sick of purity tests, infighting, and a disorganized left. That doesn’t mean that I don’t have any power. I have local power; we all do. I have tactical agreement with Democrats for a progressive future, that doesn’t make me a Democrat.

                I can influence local politics to have a progressive local government. With enough people doing this in their local government, we influence regions and states to be more progressive and push the country forward to a more equitable and just society. My weapon of choice is organizing a union at my work. Once we win, I’m going to organize my apartment complex. Once we win, I’m going to organize my broader community.

    • jas0n@lemmy.worldEnglish
      22·
      2 years ago

      This 100%. The Russian propaganda to right wing talking heads pipeline is just so painfully obvious.