• Allonzee@lemmy.worldEnglish
    43·
    1 year ago

    I understand why they kill us.

    In addition to destroying their habitats for strip malls, we rope them into entirely too many of our rhetorical infighting arguments.

    • finkrat@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      1 year ago

      At least we put them on pretty 3D animated carbonated beverage advertisements for Christmastime for a while, that must’ve felt really nice until you consider that humans are exploiting your cute and cuddly experience to increase shareholder revenue due to sales of an unnecessarily sugared beverage made with tropical fruit seeds

  • daddyjones@lemmy.worldEnglish
    21·
    1 year ago

    It wouldn’t be so bad if they could only cuddle you to death. Still not great, but better…

    • Maeve@kbin.social
      14·
      1 year ago

      Dying of easily treatable disease because one can’t afford insulin or a healthy diet vs being loved to death? If only certain people had the choice. And I didn’t mean “loved” in the euphamistic sense.

  • Gigan@lemmy.worldEnglish
    19·
    1 year ago

    I wish ancient humans had domesticated bears and bred them to be pet-sized

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
      141·
      1 year ago

      On a less jokey note, pretty much every living mammal has been subjected to domestication attempts at some point in history. Bears, elephants, tigers, hippopotami, moose… More often than not, there’s some kind of inherent physiological reason why it doesn’t work.

      Some animals don’t breed well in captivity (pandas, famously, but cheetahs are another classic case). Some can’t handle captivity at all - the few efforts at keeping Great Whites in captivity ended with the animals bludgeoning themselves to death on the walls of their enclosures. Others are consistently too aggressive to effectively tame (zebras, coyotes, chimps, elephants, and pythons are notable for all the historic instances domestication failed for these reasons). And some simply aren’t pleasant household companions - skunks, raccoons, and foxes are all notable for their powerful odors and their propensity to destroy the interiors of homes.

      There’s some speculation as to whether cats ever were actually domesticated successfully, or whether we’ve simply chosen to ignore their feral habits as such.

    • kofe@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      1 year ago

      Well there are red pandas. I’ve always wanted to cuddle one

    • Num10ck@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      1 year ago

      i read that Japan tried for a long time and lost many good people to it before giving up, long ago.

  • pete_the_cat@lemmy.worldEnglish
    16·
    1 year ago

    Same thing with big cats:

    A Jaguar or Leopard just looks and acts like a big house cat… but it can crush your skull with one bite and can drag your dead body 30 feet vertically up a tree.

  • Colour_me_triggered@lemm.eeEnglish
    14·
    1 year ago

    Polar bears look closer to how a giant killing machine is supposed to look.

  • mechoman444@lemmy.worldEnglish
    13·
    1 year ago

    Well, they won’t kill you right away… They’ll toy with you for a while then kill you.

  • Aceticon@lemmy.worldEnglish
    11·
    1 year ago

    Well, it’s fucked up for them that the bipedes made up of delicious meat have guns…

  • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    155·
    1 year ago

    Tigers are fairly common household pets in places like India, since they very much are like cats and are glad to be a cuddle-bug for free food. However this is at the risk that the tiger will forget herself and maul you in a moment of playfulness or annoyed aggression. And once you’re dead, well, there’s one last meal you can offer before it’s back to life in the jungle.

    This is not to say all tigers are amenable. Some are just assholes.

    Same with bears, and people have lived alongside bears for eons, knowing full well that alliance only lasts until famine comes a’knocking once again. (Grim fact, – relevant considering famine in Palestine – enough famine will drive us social apes to turn on each other and go full cannibal, which is why it’s regarded as a major humanitarian crisis, and cruel to induce. It’s also why Bron killed all the known thieves in anticipation of the imminent siege.)

    In the meantime, Grizzly Man lived with bears for ten years before getting killed by an unfamiliar one that was just a jerk.

    • Sentau@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      151·
      1 year ago

      Tigers are fairly common household pets in places like India

      Are you sure this statement is true¿? I never heard about any story of anybody having a fucking tiger as a pet

      • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        11·
        1 year ago

        My evidence is anecdotal, such as videos of people lounging with a tiger in their living room. There’s also the weird thing in the…90s? Where driving around in a large car with a tiger was a dare-sport thing (which is why it appears as an activity in Saints Row: The Third )

        I believe it’s not exactly legal to keep tigers or large cats as pets in industrialized parts of the world (at least not without proper holding cells) but there are huge parts of the world that are less industrialized and are not sufficiently policed to stop symbiotic social relationships between humans and wild animals.

        On a similar thread, cheetahs are notoriously easy to domesticate, to the point that they’re a problem. If you go out to cheetah territory, say in Kenya, and feed one, it may decide you’re their buddy for life and follow you home. Unlike black bears in Montana or Wyoming that assault tourists for food when they learn that’s a source, it’s for the protection of the currently endangered cheetah population.

        As for other large cats, I don’t know how often they companion up. Here in the states, we have mountain lions, but we also have ranger services to police both the lions and the tourists. I suspect in places like Nepal where there are human settlements removed enough from industry there also may be negotiations between leopards and humans with positive outcomes. But that is speculation. I haven’t seen videos of that.

        ETA: Scanning news, apparently in 2024 there are a lot of tigers-as-pets in Texas of all places, which is a lot more contrived since it’s not adopting and befriending the beastie from the nearby jungle, but importing them in to be domesticated.

        • Sentau@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
          9·
          1 year ago

          I have heard about wealthy people all over the world keeping big cats as pets but those are always kept in cages or their own enclosures. What seems wrong is you claiming that regular people are keeping tigers as pet. Infact people and tigers are more in conflict due to encroachment of humans into formerly forested areas.

    • TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zipEnglish
      9·
      1 year ago

      Tigers also kill people way more often than bears.

      Stats on this are hard to compare because black bears are responsible for 1.2 kills in the US per year and tigers are like 34 kills per year in India which does have like 4x the population of humans, but also there’s a LOT less tigers to do that killing [like 5,000 tigers to 400,000 black bears] So like… yeah.

      • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        Most of those 400k black bears will never see people though. They live in the wilds. Only a small percentage of bears come into contact with people, and they know they’re the boss.

      • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        I think it was the animal trainer for the Gladiator movie who said that you can turn your back on lions, and treat them like dogs, but you better never turn your back on one of the tigers, or you’re dead.

    • Larry@lemmy.worldEnglish
      7·
      1 year ago

      Tigers are not common household pets in India

    • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      1 year ago

      The unfamiliar one wasn’t just a jerk, it was sick. He talks about how he’s pretty sure that bear was going to eat him if it stuck around, and sure enough, that bear ate him. You’d think he’d choose not to stick around since the bear was obviously contemplating a tasty meal, but nope. He not only stayed there, he brought his girlfriend along as a side dish.

    • Everythingispenguins@lemmy.worldEnglish
      7·
      1 year ago

      Seriously, polar bears are one of the few animals in the world that see humans as prey and a legitimate food source.

      There are many animals that can kill you, very very few that will eat you.

      • finkrat@lemmy.worldEnglish
        6·
        1 year ago

        Humanity: having an obesity epidemic

        Polar Bears: “increased fat stores?? D E L I C I O U S”

        • Everythingispenguins@lemmy.worldEnglish
          46·
          1 year ago

          Well you average American does have more blubber than an arctic seal.

          I can see a really interesting plan here we can save the polar bears and reduce the pressure humans are putting on the planet. Win Win

        • Everythingispenguins@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          1 year ago

          That is why I always make sure they have extra food.

          Honestly though they will lick your face right off. I wouldn’t suggest looking up pictures of this.

  • StaySquared@lemmy.worldBannedEnglish
    7·
    1 year ago

    There’s only one bear I would have as a pet…

    Red panda.

    • pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.onlineEnglish
      6·
      1 year ago

      From what I’ve heard they’re basically like a dog with opposable thumbs, which sounds like an awful pet.

  • Sorgan71@lemmy.worldEnglish
    4·
    1 year ago

    Bro its just a liberal hoax. Just go hug him he loves you.