Note:

I swapped the original article at the request of a mod to from a source deemed more reliable, but to avoid confusion when reading the comment section prior to this edit, here is the link to the original article. I chose the Relief Web source listed by some who commented. Cheers!

    • machinin@lemmy.worldEnglish
      424·
      2 years ago

      Of course the IDF should investigate itself. I’m sure they are completely unbiased.

      • jet@hackertalks.comEnglish
        169·
        2 years ago

        Clearly you’re right. But the UN report did not say what the article said it said. Which means it’s biased reporting.

        • floofloof@lemmy.caEnglish
          141·
          2 years ago

          The article prefaces every item with the word “alleged” or “alleges”, just like the report. How is this biased?

            • WhiteHawk@lemmy.worldEnglish
              712·
              2 years ago

              What are you expecting from “World Socialist Website”? Fact-based reporting? I don’t think so.

              • jet@hackertalks.comEnglish
                56·
                2 years ago

                I would like the articles referenced here in this community to be fact-based, and I would like our discussion to be based on reality. The situation is bad enough as it is without having to make things up

                • ???@lemmy.worldBannedOPEnglish
                  82·
                  2 years ago

                  While I see what you mean by that, is the title being “biased” equal to the article being biased? Seems like all doubts are resolved upon reading the first paragraph.

                  • jet@hackertalks.comEnglish
                    64·
                    2 years ago

                    Most people don’t read the articles, they read titles and they take the inference and go to the comments and fight. Titles that are misleading are effectively lies.

                    In the propaganda war, titles are ammunition

        • machinin@lemmy.worldEnglish
          82·
          2 years ago

          At this point, with the US influence on UN reporting bodies, I believe independent reporters over UN reports concerning the atrocities committed upon the Palestinian people.

          • jet@hackertalks.comEnglish
            84·
            2 years ago

            And that’s totally fair. And probably correct. But this article says the UN says something that the UN is not saying. Which means it’s a bad article

            • floofloof@lemmy.caEnglish
              42·
              2 years ago

              It doesn’t though. Only the headline does that. That’s not good, but the article itself is not bad because of its headline.

              • jet@hackertalks.comEnglish
                24·
                2 years ago

                If the majority of people only read the title, poisoning the title is effectively making the article bad. Even if the article itself is sufficiently conditioned.

                So I will stand by my conviction that this is a bad article for this community.

                • ???@lemmy.worldBannedOPEnglish
                  51·
                  2 years ago

                  So I will stand by my conviction that this is a bad article for this community.

                  Hmmmm, I find it strange that you are being pedantic and insistent on the title spoiling the whole article. The article does an excellent job being factual, linking to all its claims, and backing them all up.

                  I read the title again and again and I believe this is just a disagreement on the meaning of “report”, between you vs. the rest of the readers who had no issue with it + the authors themselves.

                  Now I’m starting to think using the word “report” was actually more accurate… they literally mean that there was a report from the UN.

                  On Wednesday, the United Nations Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) published a report

                  This report and a similar allegation by the Euro-Med Human Rights Monitor imply that Israel has moved from murdering civilians through bombing to mass executions.

                  Reading the article again helped me realize this. Maybe it can help you too?

                  • floofloof@lemmy.caEnglish
                    1·
                    2 years ago

                    I think they’d just rather it said “UN reports Israeli forces are alleged to be carrying out mass summary executions in Gaza.”

                    Still doesn’t make the IDF look good, but it’s a fair point.

    • Maggoty@lemmy.worldEnglish
      91·
      2 years ago

      When OHCHR drops a report like this it means they consider the allegations to be credible. It’s the same level as the news calling someone an alleged murderer after the guy killed someone on national TV. The report in this case is based on witness statements and an investigation done by a human rights NGO out of Europe.

    • ???@lemmy.worldBannedOPEnglish
      61·
      2 years ago

      Thanks for sharing