Note:

I swapped the original article at the request of a mod to from a source deemed more reliable, but to avoid confusion when reading the comment section prior to this edit, here is the link to the original article. I chose the Relief Web source listed by some who commented. Cheers!

  • machinin@lemmy.worldEnglish
    424·
    2 years ago

    Of course the IDF should investigate itself. I’m sure they are completely unbiased.

    • jet@hackertalks.comEnglish
      169·
      2 years ago

      Clearly you’re right. But the UN report did not say what the article said it said. Which means it’s biased reporting.

      • floofloof@lemmy.caEnglish
        141·
        2 years ago

        The article prefaces every item with the word “alleged” or “alleges”, just like the report. How is this biased?

          • WhiteHawk@lemmy.worldEnglish
            712·
            2 years ago

            What are you expecting from “World Socialist Website”? Fact-based reporting? I don’t think so.

            • jet@hackertalks.comEnglish
              56·
              2 years ago

              I would like the articles referenced here in this community to be fact-based, and I would like our discussion to be based on reality. The situation is bad enough as it is without having to make things up

              • ???@lemmy.worldBannedOPEnglish
                82·
                2 years ago

                While I see what you mean by that, is the title being “biased” equal to the article being biased? Seems like all doubts are resolved upon reading the first paragraph.

                • jet@hackertalks.comEnglish
                  64·
                  2 years ago

                  Most people don’t read the articles, they read titles and they take the inference and go to the comments and fight. Titles that are misleading are effectively lies.

                  In the propaganda war, titles are ammunition

                  • ???@lemmy.worldBannedOPEnglish
                    52·
                    2 years ago

                    Okay, good point, like I said, I know what you mean about the title, but does a bad title necessarily mean the article is not factual?

      • machinin@lemmy.worldEnglish
        82·
        2 years ago

        At this point, with the US influence on UN reporting bodies, I believe independent reporters over UN reports concerning the atrocities committed upon the Palestinian people.

        • jet@hackertalks.comEnglish
          84·
          2 years ago

          And that’s totally fair. And probably correct. But this article says the UN says something that the UN is not saying. Which means it’s a bad article

          • floofloof@lemmy.caEnglish
            42·
            2 years ago

            It doesn’t though. Only the headline does that. That’s not good, but the article itself is not bad because of its headline.

            • jet@hackertalks.comEnglish
              24·
              2 years ago

              If the majority of people only read the title, poisoning the title is effectively making the article bad. Even if the article itself is sufficiently conditioned.

              So I will stand by my conviction that this is a bad article for this community.

              • ???@lemmy.worldBannedOPEnglish
                51·
                2 years ago

                So I will stand by my conviction that this is a bad article for this community.

                Hmmmm, I find it strange that you are being pedantic and insistent on the title spoiling the whole article. The article does an excellent job being factual, linking to all its claims, and backing them all up.

                I read the title again and again and I believe this is just a disagreement on the meaning of “report”, between you vs. the rest of the readers who had no issue with it + the authors themselves.

                Now I’m starting to think using the word “report” was actually more accurate… they literally mean that there was a report from the UN.

                On Wednesday, the United Nations Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) published a report

                This report and a similar allegation by the Euro-Med Human Rights Monitor imply that Israel has moved from murdering civilians through bombing to mass executions.

                Reading the article again helped me realize this. Maybe it can help you too?

                • floofloof@lemmy.caEnglish
                  1·
                  2 years ago

                  I think they’d just rather it said “UN reports Israeli forces are alleged to be carrying out mass summary executions in Gaza.”

                  Still doesn’t make the IDF look good, but it’s a fair point.

                  • ???@lemmy.worldBannedOPEnglish
                    3·
                    2 years ago

                    Cool, no problemo. Can we now go back to discussing the killings?