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I love how unexpectedly complex some classes are.
Like the Ranger, which mashes together a half dozen different playstyles but balances it by being mediocre at most of them.
Or the Druid, which mashes together a half dozen different playstyles and doesn’t bother to balance them whatsoever (to quote Order of the Stick: “I have class features more powerful than your entire class”).
Who wants two health bars?
Not anymore! 5.5e gives them temp HP when they wild shape, not an entire beast worth of health bar.
Boooooooo
And (before the 2024 edition) once you reach lvl20 that second healthbar can replenished once per round forever and ever…
Holy shit. Why did they nerf it?
Druids were considered too powerful (they’ve never seen a 3.0 druid I guess
My Cleric just clubbed the hell out of enemies while low-key tanking and healing party members. ^^
Spirit guardians + spiritual weapon + 19 AC!
I ran the numbers once between my cleric and a paladin I have as an alt. The paladin, without smites could, on average, get the cleric down in about 8 turns. The cleric could down the paladin in 6.
I would use total defense and tie up the most dangerous thug while the rest of the party picked off the lesser threats. Most of the time I’d never get hit at all. Then once they finished them off after a few rounds I’d step back and let them pound away while I did the real clericing.
I remember the first time I played 3.5 dnd and my DM was explaining how the classes worked and I was like wow cleric sounds super strong, but I’m sure the negatives will show as we learn the game more… Cleric is like…the goddamn strongest class (I know druid is supposedly stronger but no one ever played a good druid with us)
Cleric is strong, druid is broken. A druid played by someone who wants to be invited back will be about as strong as the cleric
The day I learned you could magically rip someone’s heart out I was sold
The power words are all mega sick, but my favorite has always been Harm
I felt like a literal god playing a wizard in 3.5. The summon table was silly.
“Isn’t that the class that just casts spirit guardians?”
Veteran player: “It can do other things?”
My main cleric started as “a tabaxi cleric who does his healing by running his head past the injury while purring.” However:
- The same can be done by druids, paladins and some versions of the warlock class
- Said tabaxi became the party’s tank, thanks to his high AC
- He’s not even optimised for healing (nature domain instead of life domain)
My tempest cleric heals you with zapping.
CLEAR!!!
Direct heals, heals over time/regeneration, hit reactive heals, temp HP pre-healing, aoe heals, single target heals, complete heals, near death heals, touch heals, pbaoe heals, ground based heals, healing rays/beams, healing summon,
Yes, my trickery domain, arcane trickster multi-class can in fact heal people… among just a few other things.
Yeah, Camilla in WotR is a cleric and she … just sucks. The other cleric is amazing at healing everyone.
Shadowheart in BG3 i can’t get to hit anything the entire game.
Isn’t she a shaman? A dex shaman?
Install the player handbook 2024 rules mod. That fixes her inability to hit things. But otherwise respec her. She has weird stats right out the gate. I usually go 16/14/12/8/16/8.
I had to stop using the 2024 mod because of the short rests not working. It’s a small thing, but it’s not advertised at all so it really ruins a game on ya.
That got me too at first but now i just stock up on healing potions. That’s the only part (short rest only healing one hp) not working i think. I get my action surge and warlock spells back.
I don’t see why you’d bother when you can just cast spirit guardians and instant win every fight instead. Plus it kind of makes her story ring hollow… Probably matters less to a player on a second playthrough.
Huh, it’s been a while since I played WotR, but I seem to recall using her as DPS. Maybe I respecced her or something.
Though my MC was a merged spellbook oracle/angel, so past a certain point the competency of the rest of my party didn’t really matter.
My first ever character was an ad&d 2e cleric, and even back then I did other things. Especially tanking and bearing monsters with a big fuck off hammer.
heheheheh. I miss PF1e’s clerics, they were such freak beasts even after being ‘nerfed’ from 3.5.
What about Warlock?
warlock is where its at.
