• apotheotic (she/her)@beehaw.orgEnglish
    321·
    23 days ago

    I have the same visceral reaction when people refer to trans women as “a trans” or “a transwoman”, same goes for trans men

    I do, however, love “doll”

    • TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOPEnglish
      12·
      23 days ago

      I get that. I wouldn’t mind “doll” as just an old timey word for women in general, but as a word for trans women it doesn’t feel right.

      • Kayday@lemmy.world
        3·
        22 days ago

        I understood “doll” to be a word that trans women call each other, which I like. I would not like being called doll by someone other than a trans woman.

  • DarkSirrush@piefed.caEnglish
    26·
    23 days ago

    I could never imaging referring to someone by a porn category, that’s just gross.

  • sem@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    17·
    22 days ago

    Never heard of “t-girl” before.

    Does the term have history? I get that it is offensive, I’m just missing the why.

  • PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    15·
    23 days ago

    I’m only familiar with ‘doll’ in the crime noir sense. While it has very misogynist connotations, I don’t see it as being among the worst.

    Point being, I know I’m missing something, but don’t know what.

    • TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOPEnglish
      13·
      23 days ago

      There’s been a bit of a catchphrase that certain allies use to signal their support: “Protect the dolls.” Apparently “doll” was once used to refer to trans women, which is all fine and dandy for people that like it. However, it is not a term I knew about before the catchphrase, nor is it one I particularly like. It comes off as kinda icky and objectifying to me.

      • GalacticSushi@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        7·
        22 days ago

        Dolls are plastic facsimiles of “real” girls that are used as a child’s plaything. Definitely grosses me out when people use it as a phrase specifically for trans women. It’s a term that needlessly others us. Just call us women, if the situation calls for specifying that we’re trans call us trans women.

        I don’t really mind if it’s being used as a term of endearment between women, but I’m not a fan of it coming from men or being used as a trans-specific term.

      • stray@pawb.social
        3·
        22 days ago

        It sounds like a category alongside Marthas, Wives, and Handmaids.

    • DarkSirrush@piefed.caEnglish
      5·
      23 days ago

      It infers they are fake, not a real woman, just a facsimile of one.

      • GalacticSushi@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        2·
        22 days ago

        It’s also pretty infantilizing. Dolls are a child’s plaything, the implication is that we’re just dressing up and playing make believe.

  • Valarie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    14·
    22 days ago

    I prefer girl or that bitch over there

    But I am about as neutral to tgirl as I am trans girl because they are both terms that refer to the same thing although I can see why, the only one that I have that visceral a reaction to is the t slur that is also really common to describe us on those sites and being called a trans is almost as bad but not quite although I hate both quite a bit

    • Eladriagon@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      2·
      22 days ago

      Seconded… if it’s that other T-word we’re both thinking of (there’s a V in there too…) yeah, just… ick. 🤮 Such a dated, horrid word.

      • Valarie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        1·
        20 days ago

        Wasn’t the t slur I was thinking but agreed it is gross

        I was thinking the nny one but i even thinking about the v one.

        Why are there so many fucking popular t slurs for us

      • kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        3·
        22 days ago

        Totally fair, I just see the two of you posting a lot of similar content and thought it was a funny coincidence.

  • fartographer@lemmy.world
    4·
    22 days ago

    I don’t care to call anyone something that they’d find offensive, but I’m kinda interested in being fed a bag of old hammers. Will they be cooked in some way to improve their texture and flavor? I’ve been good, I think I deserve a Hammer Meal.