• Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
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      11 months ago

      What?

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism

      Racism is discrimination and prejudice against people based on their race or ethnicity.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnicity

      An ethnicity or ethnic group is a grouping of people who identify with each other on the basis of perceived shared attributes that distinguish them from other groups. Those attributes can include a common nation of origin, or common sets of ancestry, traditions, language, history, society, religion, or social treatment.

      It’s possible to be racist towards anyone. If you’re white go spend a couple of months in China and you’ll understand that after being told by multiple people that intelligence varies by skin colour and white people are in the bottom half.

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          11 months ago

          I wouldn’t be so sure, I’ve been in arguments with a whole lot of people that were arguing that racism against my nation is impossible because it’s mostly white…

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              They did not.

              They compared the relationship between a thought (racism) and what they believe is a disparate group (French people), to a thought (racism) and a disparate species (dogs).

              The key comparison is about the relationship between racism and a group.

              They could have said anything for the second example.

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        There is a conversation to be had about who decided the definition of racism though.

        The wikipedia article you listed uses the definition of racism put forth by the UN. The UN is an organization dominated by white European countries and their colonies.

        This definition comes into conflict with the definition used by many marginalized communities of colour though, which defines Racism as Prejudice + Power. The implication of this is that you can be prejudice to white people, but not racist. Prejudice is still not good, but white people have historically placed themselves in a position of socioeconomic domination over BIPOC communities, and thus making them unable to experience “Racism” in every context.

        To be clear, I mentioned Context because you did, when you mentioned white people in China. This example betrays that the concept of racism is based on societal context

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      11 months ago

      You can. And by the way, check how French are doing accent in their series. Spoiler: they don’t. It’s seen as racist. Yes, the way other people are cherry picking other accents is seen as racist. Roger Murtaugh has no accent for example.

      Of course, it’s for fun you do it. Of course we still do funny things with accents. But in little groups where the context is clear (for fun or a group of racist shitbags). To quote a dead man (Desproges): “you can laugh about everything but not with everyone”. Thus not on a broadcasted channel.

      Just remember that there are other cultures.

      Hey, you see. I haven’t been offensive. It’s because I think that some times, it’s good to explain things in a detached way. Now, I can say that discussions about racism is just a joke in (current, let’s see if something better comes next) DnD. Not sure that accent is the problem: even when Darth Vador has a German accent to put a biiig clue of how the empire looks like the Nazis people are able to miss it.

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        I think you’re getting downvotes for a couple reasons, the least of which is not the fact that you seem to be hinting at the Empire being subtle with IRL fascist adjacency… The faction was literally designed from the start with Nazis at the top of the inspiration list, and this is pretty common knowledge.

        Secondly, James Earl Jones does not have a German accent, and its “Vader”. I’d go on, but there’s just so much to unpack. 😶