• bizarroland@lemmy.worldEnglish
    10·
    1 day ago

    I wouldn’t be surprised if there is some, but I bet an entire gallon of hormone laden milk has less estrogen than the average trans person takes on the daily.

    I would be surprised if it was even measurable in whole milligrams.

    • SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      4·
      1 day ago

      Well if it was measurable in mg, that would be super bad, since oral estrogen doses for trans women are like 2-4 mg per day. For it to be consumed by men regularly with no feminizing effects, I think it would need to be at least in the picograms/gallon range.

      … but then again, i’m not a doctor. I could be wrong about that.

      Edit: Turns out it’s more than I was expecting. Maybe if you are taking an anti-androgen you might get a noticeable amount of E in your system if you drink multiple liters of milk per day? Not that i’d recommend it, but it is interesting.

      • homura1650@lemmy.world
        3·
        1 day ago

        The reference levels of estrodial for males is 10-50 pg/mL.

        4mg daily of oral estrodial got me from (presumably) that range to around 95 pg/mL. Let’s round this to an estimate of a 50 pg/mL, or an increase of 12.5 pg/mL per mg of oral estrodial.

        A gallon of milk, would have 0.000492mg of estrodial, which would translate to a 0.00615 pg/mL increase. That is about 0.0015% the reference range for cis men.

        Interestingly, high testosterone levels actually increase men’s estrogen levels, as testosterone gets metabolized into estrogen.

        https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/2089003-overview?form=fpf#a1