My view is that a lot of TERFs care so much because many of them have faced patriarchal violence that they were unable to get justice for, and their powerlessness in the face of systemic misogyny causes them to “punch down” in order to build a false sense of empowerment.
I find them deeply tragic figures, because in addition to contributing to widespread systemic harms against trans people (and cis people caught in the crossfire of their hate), they are harming themselves too.
Someone has replied to you with documented examples covered in the news, but I can also add that I (a cis woman) have personally experienced harassment of this sort a few times (including being forcibly groped by a TERF when trying to enter a city-centre public restroom. This was in the UK a few years ago, and they were campaigning outside)
I shoved her away, and I did consider punching her, but I realised that I was being read as a trans woman in this context, and that my actions could reflect poorly on the trans community. Like, I didn’t want to feed into the rhetoric of “trans women are violent”.
It was surreal to realise how identity and perception work together in weird ways. There’s been a few other times where I’ve been read as being trans, and I ended up just sorting of accepting it because if I protested and said that I wasn’t trans, that it would risk coming across badly — as if I am implicitly agreeing with them that trans people are bad.
So yeah, this results in the bizarre scenario in which I am a cis person who sometimes identifies as trans
Based re: the last sentence, but also I feel sorry that that happened to you. Terfs are transphobes, I still go to the women’s bathroom, and if there’s a long queue, fuck it, whatever bathroom is emptier.
You know what I noticed? Often the bathrooms for women and men seem the same “size” from outside, but when you enter them, there’s much fewer. At my work, there’s 2 toilets for women, and 4 for men + 3 urinals. If that isn’t sexist, then I don’t know what is!
If I need to pee I need to pee, Karen. And sometimes, my head wonders why I don’t just pee on those transphobes as they want to prevent me from doing a basic need.
Is that a real thing ? Usually that’s not what haters does from what I’m aware of
https://www.advocate.com/news/lesbian-mistaken-transgender-arizona-walmart
https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-news/minnesota-teen-says-server-forced-prove-gender-restaurant-bathroom-rcna224562
https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/women-boston-liberty-hotel-bathroom-gender/
disappointing how laughably easy this is to disprove
How is this even something ? In the end it’s just a bathroom, why does it bother people so much to care if someone is trans or not ?
White women in the US South felt uncomfortable being around black women. This led to racially segregated bathrooms. Same story. Different century.
My view is that a lot of TERFs care so much because many of them have faced patriarchal violence that they were unable to get justice for, and their powerlessness in the face of systemic misogyny causes them to “punch down” in order to build a false sense of empowerment.
I find them deeply tragic figures, because in addition to contributing to widespread systemic harms against trans people (and cis people caught in the crossfire of their hate), they are harming themselves too.
yea i should have noted this in my list, but these articles are all harassment of cis women 💀
Now I’m worried
pawb.socialis another Nazi bar😑Someone has replied to you with documented examples covered in the news, but I can also add that I (a cis woman) have personally experienced harassment of this sort a few times (including being forcibly groped by a TERF when trying to enter a city-centre public restroom. This was in the UK a few years ago, and they were campaigning outside)
I hope you punched her and broke her jaw
And if you didn’t I hope another victim did
Actually I hope another did regardless of whether you did
I shoved her away, and I did consider punching her, but I realised that I was being read as a trans woman in this context, and that my actions could reflect poorly on the trans community. Like, I didn’t want to feed into the rhetoric of “trans women are violent”.
It was surreal to realise how identity and perception work together in weird ways. There’s been a few other times where I’ve been read as being trans, and I ended up just sorting of accepting it because if I protested and said that I wasn’t trans, that it would risk coming across badly — as if I am implicitly agreeing with them that trans people are bad.
So yeah, this results in the bizarre scenario in which I am a cis person who sometimes identifies as trans
Based re: the last sentence, but also I feel sorry that that happened to you. Terfs are transphobes, I still go to the women’s bathroom, and if there’s a long queue, fuck it, whatever bathroom is emptier.
You know what I noticed? Often the bathrooms for women and men seem the same “size” from outside, but when you enter them, there’s much fewer. At my work, there’s 2 toilets for women, and 4 for men + 3 urinals. If that isn’t sexist, then I don’t know what is!
If I need to pee I need to pee, Karen. And sometimes, my head wonders why I don’t just pee on those transphobes as they want to prevent me from doing a basic need.