• Mossy Feathers (She/They)@pawb.social
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    Just a reminder: that there was no one living in the Falklands prior to the UK and France showing up. My understanding is that no one even wanted the islands until they found oil nearby. While it’s weird that the UK has a colony all the way down at the tip of South America, there’s no reason to argue for Argentinian ownership of the Falklands. Hell, Argentina taking ownership of the Falklands is more colonialist than UK maintaining ownership due to the population being mostly British and French.

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      I personally think calling them a colony is incorrect. They are an island where UK citizens live and have lived since the beginning of human habitation. They get to vote. They have the same culture and want to stay in the UK. The only thing that matches the colonial definition is that they are far away which is a relative term.

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          The Falklands were never inhabited by aboriginals.

          In fact, there is no evidence that Aboriginal or Argentinian people had ever visited or had knowledge that the islands existed prior to the British arriving.

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            The Falklands were never inhabited by aboriginals.

            Yep. That was one of reasons of Argentina’s objections to the British claim, that the british citizens are not indigenous to the island.

            In fact, there is no evidence that Aboriginal or Argentinian people had ever visited or had knowledge that the islands existed prior to the British arriving.

            That’s not true. Check out the wiki page about it, it has a whole timeline, including who lived on it when.

            Also, Argentina claims ownership by inheritance from Spain when they won their independence from Spain.

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              So Britain was controlling the Islands before Spain, yet you’re still claiming Argentina inherited them by Spain. Wouldn’t they technically belong to France by your logic?

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                So Britain was controlling the Islands before Spain, yet you’re still claiming Argentina inherited them by Spain. Wouldn’t they technically belong to France by your logic?

                Depends on when who vacated the island and who took it over after that, and if vacating even means giving up on ownership or not (IANAL).

                The link I’ve been posting goes over the history, and nations have come and gone and come and gone and come and kicked out others, on that island. Its a mess.

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      My understanding is that no one even wanted the islands until they found oil nearby.

      Bingo!

      there’s no reason to argue for Argentinian ownership of the Falklands. Hell, Argentina taking ownership of the Falklands is more colonialist than UK maintaining ownership

      The United Nations says otherwise.

      The Wiki page is really interesting reading on the ownership of that island, really jumps around over the centuries.

      This one part of the article really jumps out at me…

      That self-determination is further rendered inapplicable due to the disruption of the territorial integrity of Argentina that began with a forceful removal of its authorities in the islands in 1833, thus there is a failure to comply with an explicit requirement of UN Resolution 1514 (XV).[93][94]

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        Maybe you should read what you’re posting instead and realize you’re on the wrong side of this?

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          Maybe you should read what you’re posting instead and realize you’re on the wrong side of this?

          Why, because you say so? There are some good facts documented in that link. The issue is not clear cut.