• n2burns@lemmy.ca
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        9 months ago

        AFAIK, the main issue wasn’t where they’re used but where they’re stored. While scooters riding on sidewalks is an issue, the bigger issue is them cluttering the sidewalk and becoming an impedance to pedestrians, especially those with disabilities.

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          9 months ago

          Interesting. I’ve seen this where I live, rental scooters just littering the sidewalk.

          I wonder, whether personally-owned scooters will become more prevalent if rentals aren’t available.

          I guess personally-owned scooters are going to be parked more responsibly rather than just left wherever.

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            9 months ago

            I see a lot of people where I live riding around on scooters but haven’t seen the rental ones here like in bigger cities so I guess personally owned do become more popular if you can’t rent

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        The performance envelopes of vehicles sharing bike lanes these days are wildly different. I dread the day that RTO is complete, and rush-hour bike lanes are shared by e-bikes, e-unicycles, one-wheels, push scooters, e-standup-scooters, smaller sit-scooters, monkey bikes, e-skateboards, skateboards, and whatever else I’m missing.

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          9 months ago

          Well… yes ?

          I mean there will always be people that break the rules but in my experience once something becomes a law, like smoking in certain areas or whatever, people tend to follow the rules.

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            9 months ago

            The rule already exists, living in the suburbs and working in Paris, I can tell you that they ended up forbidding them because a lot of people weren’t using them on the road.

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          9 months ago

          so instead of that one rule, you think it’s better to have a different rule?

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      9 months ago

      Wouldn’t this apply to both rented and personally-owned scooters though?

      Getting rid of the rentals might reduce the number temporarily, but doesn’t really seem to solve the problem.

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        It gets rid of all the unused rental scooters lying around on the sidewalk, and that was seen as the biggest nuisance. Privately owned scooters will never reach the same height of scooter littering.

        The rental scooter companies were unwilling or unable to deal with the issue. They were warned that this was becoming an issue.

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          Privately owned scooters will never reach the same height of scooter littering.

          Perhaps not scooter “littering” but surely just numbers of personal transport devices.

          That is to say, if no other form of transport existed, then the presence of rental scooters would surely mean that there were fewer scooters in total and thereby fewer scooters parked on the sidewalk.

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        most people who buy their own don’t leave it out on the street, and (while I’m not in paris…) my experience is they also tend to be more responsible about it. like riding while sober, wearing helmets, and being in the bike lane (or wherever they’re supposed to be)

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          Yeah I think you’re dead right there.

          The rental scooters do seem to bring out the worst in people, or maybe they just tend to hilight people’s general disrespect for “things” particularly those which do not belong to them.

          People will always take care of their own stuff better than someone else’s.

          Edit: I’ve also noticed that people aren’t using them that much where I live. They were all over the place for a minute, but now don’t see them very much.

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        If you own it, presumably you’ve spent more time using it, meaning you both look and drive in a more controlled manner