• Rolder@reddthat.comEnglish
    42·
    2 years ago

    Considering they have still been launching rockets at civilian centers not to mention killing innocent Israelis, taking hostages, etc since putting in the new charter, Im not sure I believe them.

    • Maggoty@lemmy.worldEnglish
      21·
      2 years ago

      Since Israel has been killing civilians at the fastest rate since World War 2, I’m not sure I believe their statements.

      But if there’s to be peace there must be a good faith effort. And Israel has never shown that.

      • Rolder@reddthat.comEnglish
        21·
        2 years ago

        Neither has Hamas. There are no good guys in this conflict, which is what makes it very difficult.

        • Maggoty@lemmy.worldEnglish
          21·
          2 years ago

          Hamas stood for election on a moderate platform. But Israel immediately declared war on them. Hamas reduced their demands for peace to an end of the occupation and an actual Palestinian state. Israel scoffed and bombed hospitals because the doctors were political members of Hamas.

          They also attempted to take part in the Trump administration negotiations and got locked out. They then waited for Biden, and got nothing.

          How long does one keep writing letters before they pick up a musket?

          • Rolder@reddthat.comEnglish
            22·
            2 years ago

            And they have been firing rockets the entire god damn time, so I don’t believe they are moderate at all, sorry

            • Maggoty@lemmy.worldEnglish
              21·
              2 years ago

              Don’t Hamas have a right to defend themselves?

              • Rolder@reddthat.comEnglish
                21·
                2 years ago

                Also, firing rockets at densely populated civilian centers is “defending yourself” LMAO

                • Maggoty@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  21·
                  2 years ago

                  And bombing hospitals because a Hamas affiliated doctor is? Shooting protest medics?

                  Hamas is operating at the limits of their capability. Israel is completely capable of small strikes and extractions.

              • Rolder@reddthat.comEnglish
                22·
                2 years ago

                My favorite part is when there have been ceasefires or other attempts at peace, where Hamas says nah and just keeps attacking anyway

                • WanderingVentra@lemm.eeEnglish
                  1·
                  2 years ago

                  Same thing with Israel. They will have settlers and soldiers attacking while “at peace” or during negotiations.

                • Maggoty@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  21·
                  2 years ago

                  That’s a product of the media accepting IDF propaganda where they decide the day the war “starts”. They kill Palestinians and then act like the war started when Hamas retaliates. According to CNN and the IDF they’re allowed to do whatever they they want, but one rocket is a breach of the cease fire.

                  The double standard is exposed and it’s not working anymore.