• AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    I believe some of the blame should go to Israel for the years of systematically oppressing and chipping away the rights of the Palestinians. It takes 2 to tango. The people of Palestine were forced to resort to extremist tactics because if they stayed with deplomacy Israel would have slowly killed them anyway.

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      10 months ago

      No, come on. None of the blame for rape goes anywhere but the rapist. Nothing, no level of oppression, justified rape. This is something we should all be able to agree upon.

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        10 months ago

        I agree rape it bad. Your previous statements generalized an entire group of people based on the actions of a few. Your argument is that because Hamas has raped people, Israel has the right to exterminate all of Palestine. My argument is that had Israel not taken land and oppressed the Palestinians they would never have had the need to support an extremest group.

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          10 months ago

          That’s fair, and it wasn’t my statement or my argument. I agree with you that all of Palestine is also not responsible for the actions of Hamas, nor is it reasonable to engage in genocide in response to terrorist attacks, even including rape.

        • i_have_no_enemies@lemmy.worldOP
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          10 months ago

          My argument is that had Israel not taken land and oppressed the Palestinians they would never have had the need to support an extremest group.

          before israel existed there was palestinian/arab agression, zionism became non-peaceful after repeated agression from the islamists

          read about killing of moshe barsky and hebron massacres

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            10 months ago

            zionism became non-peaceful after repeated agression from the islamists

            Was this before or after Israel stole their land?

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              10 months ago

              israel didn’t steal any land, first it was a small state made up of area that jews bought, arabs attacked and we all know the agressors lose land if they attack , and now we are here

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                10 months ago

                Israel was founded on terrorism, leading to the British leaving Mandatory Palestine and the Israelis to colonise the lands.

                The 1939 white paper plan was to give the land to the Arab(Palestinian) peoples living there within the next 10 years.

                Israeli terrorists along with literal Israeli Nazi sympathiser groups like Lehi, launched terrorist attacks and assassinations of British such as the King David Hotel bombing or killing of Lord

                They were upset because Britain was not allowing more Jewish people to move over and invade the land.

                Israel stole Palestine through colonialism and terrorism.

                Don’t try to paint anyone else as the original aggressor here except Israelis.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_insurgency_in_Mandatory_Palestine