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I try to contribute to things getting better, sometimes through polite rational skepticism.
Disagreeing with your comment ≠ supporting the opposite side, I support rationality.
Let’s discuss to refine the arguments that make things better sustainably.
Always happy to question our beliefs.

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  • More straw man arguments, I never called him a conservative.

    The conservative position on national parks, at least in the west, would be that they should remain open for resource extraction.

    Yes, that’s the point, but also consider that this how it started, before progressive politics made it about nature preservation. Read the Wikipedia page or the quote I have taken have of it if you’re feeling lazy.

    You are simply objectively incorrect.

    You are simply not trying to understand what I mean because you’d rather confirm the bias you have formed about me when you’ve seen the downvotes on my comments.



  • Let me know what you think I wrote that was objectively incorrect. I get the feeling most people reading this thread and following the downvotes think I’m claiming the USA national parks were solely created by conservative, which I didn’t. I wanted to point at that conservative ideas was what started what later gave birth to national parks as we know them, and not only in the USA. Maybe some national parks locations we know today wouldn’t exist if it hadn’t been protected for conservative reasons initially. Note also, that I used the word maybe, from the beginning, because it’s certainly not the only reason they exist today. I admit guilt to use a short, surprising sentence without further explanation to raise questions, but it seems almost all reactions got negatively oriented from there because of how touchy politics is here, especially if it doesn’t follow the left main stream. This saddens me because with the default ranking system, this interesting thread got buried, and fewer people could read it.