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Any violence towards civilians is unacceptable. You can condemn those actions by Hamas and still recognize that the occupied have an international right to fight back against their occupiers.
Israel has made peaceful resolution impossible, non violent protests against the occupation are responded with lethal force
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.”
At the first checkpoint, we were ordered to raise our identity cards for photographing by a soldier, while tanks moved menacingly toward us. We continued on to the second, where the army separated men from women and instructed us to kneel. Then, an officer began to lecture us, blaming Hamas for our displacement, the destruction of our homes, our need to seek refuge, and the fear we are experiencing.
He then told us that in order to be allowed to pass through the checkpoint unharmed, we had to chant slogans against the resistance: “The people want the overthrow of Hamas,” and “God is sufficient for us, and he is the best disposer of affairs against Hamas and the Qassam Brigades” (appropriating a line from the Qur’an). The officer insisted on the repetition of these slogans; only after more than 45 minutes did the soldiers permit women and children to pass, while men were kept behind.
At the third checkpoint, a soldier told me that in order to proceed I must leave my bag behind — which contained all of my belongings, including blankets and clothes for my whole family. The soldier then told me to part with my children so they could pass through before me. I refused, fearing that I would lose them in the crowd, and he eventually allowed me to cross with them. Others lost their children and faced great distress while searching for them.
It’s not a magic trick just because you don’t want to engage with the sources I provide for detailed info on the subjects. The occupation began in 1967, the policies and permanence of the occupation are what maintain the apartheid of the OPTs and to a lesser extent Arab Israelis. Ethnic Cleansing has been ongoing, within the green line since 1948 and then within the OPTs after 1967. The genocide of Gaza began with the latest Gaza war
Obviously they are different territories, they are also both Occupied Palestinian Territories (OPT). If you want information on how Israel maintains the apartheid of both territories, I have provided you the links above. If you want a comprehensive list of the history of the OPTs I can give you more links for additional context
The Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza fit the definition of a prison to different degrees. Those links go into extensive detail on both. I don’t know what else I can do if you refuse to look at the sources I provide for details
The only way to replace apartheid is with a democratic system.
The West Bank is like an open-air prison where you send petty criminals who are allowed more time to go outside and work outside. And there’s no harsh regime inside but it’s still a prison. Even the Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, if he moves from Area B to C, he needs the Israelis to open the gate for him. And that’s for me very symbolic, the fact that the president cannot move without the Israeli jailer opening the cage.
There is, of course, a Palestinian response all the time to this. Palestinians are not passive and they don’t accept it. We saw the first Intifada and the second Intifada, and perhaps we will see a third Intifada. The Israelis say to the Palestinians, in a prison management mentality, that if you resist we will take away all your privileges, like we do in prison. You won’t be able to work outside. You won’t be able to move freely, and you will be punished collectively. This is the kind of the punitive side of it, collective punishment as retaliation.
INTERVIEW: Ilan Pappé: How Israel turned Palestine into the biggest prison on earth
Israel controls all aspects of movement, Water, Air space, Sea access, borders, Imports (food and building supplies), Labor exploitation, and maintain the apartheid through violence
A prison, also known as a jail, gaol, penitentiary, detention center, correction center, correctional facility, or remand center, is a facility where people are confined against their will and denied a variety of freedoms under the authority of the state, generally as punishment for various crimes. Authorities most commonly use prisons within a criminal-justice system: people charged with crimes may be imprisoned until their trial; those who have pled or been found guilty of crimes at trial may be sentenced to a specified period of imprisonment.
It is absolutely an open air prison, except you get in just by being born inside the OPTs with the only court you’ll ever see being a military court where even children can be taken from their families indefinitely with administrative detention
Hamas was an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood, with sheikh yassin as the ‘spiritual leader’ in 1987. Those links go over the Intifada’s and Hamas in detail.
The intifada was a massive protest against the occupation that was ongoing since 1967, so yes there would be no Hamas if there was no occupation.
The First Intifada was a largely spontaneous series of Palestinian demonstrations, nonviolent actions like mass boycotts, civil disobedience, Palestinians refusing to work jobs in Israel, and attacks (using rocks, Molotov cocktails, and occasionally firearms) on Israelis.
-PBS
Hamas wouldn’t exist if there was no occupation
British Mandate Period:
The Concept of Transfer 1882-1948
Palestinian Arab Congress advocating for Unified State 1928
1929 Riots from Forward and 972Mag
Peel Commission Report and Memorandum of the Arab Higher Committee 1937
1936-1939 Revolt from JVL, Britannica, MEE
1948 to 1967:
Plan Dalet and Declassified Massacres
Arab League advocating for unified state 1948
1967 war Declassified
Israel Martial Law and Defence (Emergency) Regulations practiced in the occupied territories after 1967
How the US became the ally of Israel
Occupation:
Occupation and 50 years of dispossession
Arab Israelis are not equal including Education (2001 report)
Palestinian Prisoners in Israel and Military Court
Child abuse of Palestinian prisoners
Human Shields including Children (2013 Report)
Settler Violence, Torture and Abuse in Interrogations, No freedom of movement, and also Water control
Palestinians lack civil rights
Hamas founding charter and Revised charter 2017
History of Hamas supported by Netanyahu since 2012
PCPSR Public Opinion Poll Dec 2023
One State Solution, Foreign Affairs archived here
There has been no proof
Report Finds “No Evidence” in Key Dossier to Support Israel’s UNRWA Allegations
Israel’s evidence of UNRWA Hamas allegations examined
As donors suspend critical funding to UNRWA, allegations against staff remain murky
Head of UN agency for Palestinians defies Israeli calls to quit
What do you think the conditions were like in Gaza and the West Bank even on Oct 6th from the occupation?
British Mandate Period:
The Concept of Transfer 1882-1948
Palestinian Arab Congress advocating for Unified State 1928
1929 Riots from Forward and 972Mag
Peel Commission Report and Memorandum of the Arab Higher Committee 1937
1936-1939 Revolt from JVL, Britannica, MEE
1948 to 1967:
Plan Dalet and Declassified Massacres
Arab League advocating for unified state 1948
1967 war Declassified
Israel Martial Law and Defence (Emergency) Regulations practiced in the occupied territories after 1967
How the US became the ally of Israel
Occupation:
Occupation and 50 years of dispossession
Arab Israelis are not equal including Education (2001 report)
Palestinian Prisoners in Israel and Military Court
Child abuse of Palestinian prisoners
Human Shields including Children (2013 Report)
Torture and Abuse in Interrogations
Palestinians lack civil rights
Hamas founding charter and Revised charter 2017
PCPSR Public Opinion Poll Dec 2023
One State Solution, Foreign Affairs archived here
This article fails to clarify that the ceasefire is for two months and not a permanent ceasefire. Hamas has already agreed to release all the hostages for a full ceasefire.
Israel wants the hostages returned only if they can continue their bombing campaigns after the pause
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It’s like they keep getting concentrated into smaller and smaller areas under the pretense of security, hmm…
This isn’t about Jewish people or the Jewish faith. This is about Zionism and settler colonialism
Get this antisemitic bullshit out of here. The state of Israel doesn’t even represent all Israelis, and not remotely all Jewish people. There have been prominent Jewish people that have been anti-zionist all the way back since the 1920s to present day
Those articles all show execution style killings Israel has done in this war, reported by human rights orgs. Hamas has done public executions before 2015/2007 and 2022 which while equally abhorrent isn’t quite the same as Israel has been doing to Palestinians. So I don’t think they are equally likely, to me it seems Israel is a lot more likely due to the circumstances here.
But I am grateful that you are willing to discuss in a civil manner and interested in credible sources. That’s not as common as it should be, insults and sourceless claims should be left to reddit imo lol.
As for genocide, the ICJ case is very detailed. I’ll link what I have found here:
ICJ Ruling archived here
Experts on Genocide at US Court on the issue
800+ Legal Scholars on International Law and Genocide on whether it amounts to genocide
Law for Palestine Releases Database with 500+ Instances of Israeli Incitement to Genocide
GDF has a pretty good video on it imo
Also linking this Foreign Affairs article which is quite good on the topic of a one state solution archived here
I am sensing some denial here. I’m sure they just accidentally added cuts to the video, surely they wouldn’t try to mislead people by fabricating evidence.
Why has there been zero independent verification if the IDF proof is so clear cut?