The Chinese leader Biden told China’s ambitions to control Taiwan were unchanged at a meeting meant to reduce tensions.

  • eltrain123@lemmy.worldEnglish
    29·
    2 years ago

    … try… they’re going to try to take over Taiwan.

    • Deceptichum@kbin.socialOP
      184·
      2 years ago

      No, they would very thoroughly lose. China’s in no condition to take on the US, let alone decouple its economy from the global community.

      • Szymon@lemmy.caEnglish
        1119·
        2 years ago

        “global” is turning out to be a small handful of countries, and the other block is actively securing the rest of the world into their influence

        • naturalgasbad@lemmy.caEnglish
          10·
          2 years ago

          I mean, I agree, but that doesn’t mean China could “win” in an offensive military action against Taiwan. Taiwan is literally a fortress and Taiwan/China cultural overlap is too significant to drive strong warmongering sentiment.

          An invasion is such a silly suggestion that it doesn’t even need consideration. At best, it would be a pyrrhic victory with millions dead on both sides and the island in ruins.

          The far more likely scenario is a blockade, sorry, “economic embargo” of Taiwan… Of course, Cuba is a clear example of how a blockade economic embargo doesn’t really work, so…

          • DaDragon@kbin.social
            2·
            2 years ago

            That’s a political win situation, regardless. What’s 10 million lives if you can claim that you successfully did the work that even the great leader Mao couldn’t achieve 50 years before?

          • highenergyphysics@lemmy.worldEnglish
            27·
            2 years ago

            Millions? That’s just another Sunday as far as Chinese warfare goes.

            That would undoubtedly be a victory for China. A ruined island can be rebuilt and kept forever. An independent island cannot.

          • Szymon@lemmy.caEnglish
            417·
            2 years ago

            China and Russia have funded and installed infrastructure to increase the quality of life (as in, keep the politicians elected, as well as put into their debt and influence) of most countries that aren’t either directly touching America, a part of Western Europe, or down Australia way.

            • Beetschnapps@lemmy.worldEnglish
              141·
              2 years ago

              So US, Canada, Mexico, a lot of South America, the Philippines, South Korea, Vietnam, Singapore, Taiwan, UK, Ireland, Scotland, all of the EU (27 countries with an 18 trillion gdp), any other western aligned or NATO countries Norway, Iceland, Australia and more…

              Versus china and a country with a smaller economy than Texas… you got things backwards.

            • Deceptichum@kbin.socialOP
              85·
              2 years ago

              Hahahaha oh fucking hell that is hilarious.

              Like you actually made me legitimately laugh, thanks for that.

              • Cosmicomical@kbin.social
                33·
                2 years ago

                care to elaborate? i agree with the sentiment but laugh is not an argument

                • Szymon@lemmy.caEnglish
                  31·
                  2 years ago

                  They laugh because there is no logical argument. They distract and make fun of it so you dont bother to actually look it up to see the numbers for yourself.

                  Take a look at which countries get heavy investments from China and Russia, then take a look at voting records in the UN on issues that are favourable to Russia or China.

                  You see the same thing in the western voting block, which has more influence at the moment. You can see how change is difficult when the whole world wants something but one white guy doesnt.

                • Deceptichum@kbin.socialOP
                  54·
                  2 years ago

                  I’m not going to spend my effort arguing with someone with such out there believes.

                  It’s like arguing with a flat earther, why bother? They’ve decided what they want to know and that’s that.