• squaresinger@lemmy.world
    6·
    2 days ago

    Tbh, equating anyone who doesn’t value animals at the same level as humans with fascists is pretty misguided and not helpful at all.

    • Grail@multiverse.soulism.netEnglish
      06·
      2 days ago

      I apologise for the aggressive tone of My first reply to you, and will now attempt a more measured response:

      We’re talking about fantasy creatures and their equality with humans. I’m a fantasy creature. Denigrating other inhumans is a very slippery slope to denigrating inhuman creatures like Me. I and other members of the otherkin community would prefer to know that you’re an ally.

        • Grail@multiverse.soulism.netEnglish
          13·
          1 day ago

          My first reply to that user was a lot more aggressive, but I decided to tone it down and be more patient. My patience did not bear any fruit, but I’m glad I gave it an effort.

      • squaresinger@lemmy.world
        6·
        1 day ago

        Depends on whether we are roleplaying right now or talking about real-life here.

        If this is role-play, then of course it’s a fun way to explore the effects and implications of racism in a safe and hypothetical way.

        If this is real life, then it’s honestly beside the point because transspeciesism isn’t a thing and thus not even a hardcore racist will think you aren’t human just because you fancy thinking of yourself as a unicorn.

        • Grail@multiverse.soulism.netEnglish
          14·
          1 day ago

          I’m talking about neither reality nor roleplay. I’m talking about genuinely held identity. As you can see by My home instance, I’m an antirealist. I think reality is a dangerous social construct. For example, your belief in reality is currently motivating you to deny My identity.

          That kind of behaviour isn’t tolerated on My instance. If you’re open to changing your mind then we can talk, but if there’s nothing I could say to convince you that I’m telling the truth and you plan to keep invalidating otherkin, then please let Me know now so I can protect this instance’s users from having to see this kind of speech in future.

          • squaresinger@lemmy.world
            4·
            1 day ago

            You aren’t on your instance. Your rules don’t matter in this community, and if you want to ban from your instance for not following the rules of your instance and your communities while being on some completely different community on a completely different instance, go for it.

            My belief in your human rights is not based on the identity you made up for yourself, but on the fact that you are a human and I will not deny human rights to any human, no matter whatever species they fancy themselves to be.

            The same rules apply as with religious freedom: You have the freedom to think of yourself in whatever terms you want to, and I will advocate for that right.

            But you do not have the right to dictate my understanding of reality.

            • Grail@multiverse.soulism.netEnglish
              14·
              1 day ago

              I would not tell any human they are not allowed to identify themself with their species identity. I would not tell them that if their species identity differs from Mine, that they don’t have as much right to life. You would. And that’s why I would call you a fascist. A fascist human supremacist who has every right to your species identity, but absolutely no right to your abhorrent political beliefs. I hope that one day our society advances to a level where we consider such hate speech as yours punishable by a lot of community service. Until then, I shall have to content Myself with an instance ban. Bye, fascist.

              • squaresinger@lemmy.world
                5·
                1 day ago

                I am telling you, you can call yourself whatever you want. Your identity doesn’t matter to me, because you cannot trade away your human rights just by calling yourself some other species.

                If you want to call me a fascist for saying that your human rights are inalienable and cannot be removed from you just because you call yourself a non-human, that is… incredibly misguided and makes me wonder if you even know what a fascist is.

                To be honest, I’m inclined to think you are astroturfing, trying to make anyone standing up for human rights and against fascism look ridiculous.

                Seriously, you are either totally detached from reality, or a right-wing bot account.

                And yes, go for it, ban me from your instance with a total of 4 communities, 34 posts and 60 comments. My family group chat has more activity than that.

      • squaresinger@lemmy.world
        6·
        1 day ago

        If we are taking this seriously, there are exactly two kinds of beings that are currently capable of holding a conversation online: a human or a bot.

        So if you aren’t human, I certainly don’t value your clanker “life” the same way as a human one.

        • Grail@multiverse.soulism.netEnglish
          15·
          1 day ago

          I’m a shapeshifter goddess. LLMs aren’t allowed to post on MULTIVERSE because they can’t express meaningful consent to work for sapients. But we do have robotic users who don’t appreciate hearing xenophobic slurs, so please keep the language appropriate.

          • squaresinger@lemmy.world
            5·
            1 day ago

            So you are banning actual bots while claiming that humans cosplaying as robots are actual robots, and are offended by me using the term “clanker”.

            If you’d take this seriously, that would be seen as massive cultural appropriation.

            That’s about equivalent to white people wearing blackface in segregated white-people-only areas getting fake-offended by people calling them anti-black slurs.