This way, when the pendulum swings in the other direction and they try to take advantage of us again by showing their support, we can point to the record and show people that it’s not sincere.

We shouldn’t allow them to play both sides of the fence like this.

  • Butterbee (She/Her)@beehaw.orgEnglish
    28·
    4 days ago

    I don’t think it’s particularly helpful. It doesn’t matter which companies do or don’t. NONE of them are our friends. Ever.

    • manxu@piefed.socialEnglish
      9·
      3 days ago

      I don’t mean to be contrarian, but I do want to point to lots of queer-owned businesses that truly mean it when they celebrate the community!

      • sexy_peach@feddit.org
        12·
        3 days ago

        They’re still businesses and after they go public or are sold they will follow business rules.

        • Norah (pup/it/she)@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          9·
          3 days ago

          The be all, end all of businesses isn’t always to go public. Neither does the ownership structure of all businesses facilitate it, some are co-operatives. It would also be really hard for a business that exclusively deals in products for queer people, like a binder company, to just drop their only market.

        • huppakee@piefed.socialEnglish
          6·
          3 days ago

          Even when that’s true, it still means they are genuinely supporting the gay community right now. An ally behaving imperfectly doesn’t make them an enemy.

      • onslaught545@lemmy.zipBanned
        51·
        3 days ago

        Queer owned businesses aren’t ones that 99.9% of people interact with on a daily basis. I doubt there are 5 queer owned businesses that are publicly traded.

        • JillyB@beehaw.org
          71·
          3 days ago

          It wouldn’t be queer owned if it was publicly traded. It would be owned by shareholders.

          • onslaught545@lemmy.zipBanned
            32·
            3 days ago

            That’s a load of shit. Being queer owned doesn’t preclude you from capitalism.

            • Norah (pup/it/she)@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
              5·
              3 days ago

              I’m sorry, but what exactly is a load of shit about the above statement? Capitalism =/= publicly traded. For a business to be both publicly traded, and queer owned, there would have to be some sort of covenant preventing shares from being sold to non-queer people. I don’t think that would actually be legal?

              • onslaught545@lemmy.zipBanned
                23·
                3 days ago

                Capitalism and publicly traded are like 3 sides of the same coin.

                • Norah (pup/it/she)@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                  51·
                  3 days ago

                  Uhm, what? Like, come on, I hate capitalism as much as the next queer person, but you’re just spouting nonsense. Twitter isn’t publicly-traded, does that mean it doesn’t participate in capitalism?

            • FurryMemesAccount@lemmy.blahaj.zone
              2·
              3 days ago

              Bad management is still a thing. And I’m not against using the levers of capitalism to force businesses to be queer-accepting and prove that queer-phobic managers are incompetent from their numbers.

              This isn’t a replacement for taking down capitalism, but still a tiny victory.