• Melllvar@startrek.websiteEnglish
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    2 years ago

    I don’t think that works. You’d still have a situation where the plaintiffs are asking the court to decide US foreign and defense policy.

    • Maggoty@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 years ago

      No. That’s the law as passed by Congress. Either it’s enforceable or it isn’t.

      • Melllvar@startrek.websiteEnglish
        1·
        2 years ago

        It’s enforceable by Congress through their oversight and impeachment powers.

        • Maggoty@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          2 years ago

          Sure. And it’s also enforceable by a court order to the DOD stating they need to comply with the law.

          • Melllvar@startrek.websiteEnglish
            11·
            2 years ago

            Except what they ask for is beyond the power of the courts to grant.

            • Maggoty@lemmy.worldEnglish
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              2 years ago

              No it isn’t. Courts have forced the government to follow the law many times.

              • Melllvar@startrek.websiteEnglish
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                2 years ago

                They have also declined to do so many times on the grounds I’ve pointed out.

                Not every law-related complaint is justiciable, not just anyone can have standing, and there are some things that are the exclusive powers of the other two branches. The court can no more force the President to declare Israel a terrorist state than it can force Congress to declare war.

                • Maggoty@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                  2 years ago

                  That’s not out of the blue though. They need a basis for doing that. And this is pretty clear law. A ruling that leahy is unenforceable except by the executive themselves would be huge. And ridiculous.

                  • Melllvar@startrek.websiteEnglish
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                    2 years ago

                    sigh I don’t know what else to say and I’m done wasting my time. Your political belief is that Israel ought to be declared a terrorist state? Fine. But that doesn’t change my legal analysis that this lawsuit is DOA.

                  • Melllvar@startrek.websiteEnglish
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                    2 years ago

                    A ruling that the court could dictate foreign policy would be bigger and more ridiculous.

                    The law is not being violated; it’s being followed. The law delegates the power to declare foreign states terrorist supporters to the executive branch. The executive branch has declined to do so, and now Congress has declined to force the issue. The courts must defer to the executive’s judgement here–even if that judgement is wrong.