China has said it will “never compromise” on the issue of Taiwan, in its first military talks with the US since 2021.

It urged the US to “stop arming Taiwan” and take its concerns “seriously”.

This comes just days ahead of pivotal elections in Taiwan, which could push the island further towards - or away - from Beijing.

China claims Taiwan as part of its own territory, but the island sees itself as distinct from the Chinese mainland.

  • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    I think they are taking China’s concerns seriously. That’s why they are arming Taiwan.

    I’m tired of this idea that the people of a region shouldn’t have the choice of whether or not they are a part of a country. This applies to Taiwan, Ukraine, Chechnya, Palestine, Catalan, Tibet, or anyone else that wants to break off from a country people other than them decided they were a part of.

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      10 months ago

      Does this apply to Donetsk and Luhansk as well?

      Want to make sure you are internally consistent here.

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        If they honestly wanted to leave Ukraine to join Russia, I don’t think Ukraine should stop them. But a) it complicates things when a country sends its own people to get a region to vote to join that country, b) it’s also further complicated when there’s a divide in the population (which also likely applies to the regions I mentioned), and c) I don’t trust a referendum run by today’s Russia after it invaded and displaced populations in those regions.

        But yeah, I don’t just believe this when it’s politically convenient, though I would prefer to see such a mechanism used to enable self-governance rather than leaving one country to join another as ultimately I am anti-empire.

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        If you use sham referendums and Kremlin news sources as your basis for reality, why not move there? I’m sure Putin would welcome you with open arms!

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          If you use sham referendums and Kremlin news sources

          I mean, shame elections were what split the country back in 2014 and caused the intra-state violence that eventually turned into an inter-state war. Eastern Ukraine has been dominated by Russian ethnic nationals and Russia-aligned businesses since the fall of the Soviet Union. The West is where all the Euro-loving Indies and Banderites live.

          You hardly needed a referendum to know Donetsk would side with the Russians. That’s like asking how folks in Alabama feel about the Confederacy. Hell, Crimea was effectively a bloodless conquest in no small part because the Crimeans were totally opposed to the sitting Ukrainian government.

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    The way it’s been compromising for the last several decades?

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    When US support a genocide in the middle east under the statement “Isreal have the right to defend itself by attacking others” It is amazing that China still haven’t rolled in with their military in Taiwan.

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      They’re waiting to see if Trump is in office. He can be bought for fairly cheap.

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        Yeah, but bought by whom? Modi’s India and Meloni’s Italy and Yoon Suk Yeol’s Korea all want a slice. Hell, the US is overflowing with NatSec types who are eager for a loss cannon like Trump to take office.

        I don’t think Trump siding with China is in any way inevitable. He could just as easily be baited into starting a shooting war purely thanks to some Beautiful Generals massaging his ego.

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      They already know we don’t care about genocide of middle eastern people, they’re worried we’ll support them with military equipment like Ukraine. They’re even using Russia’s playbook. “Stop helping them prepare to defend against an invasion or else.”

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      China knows about the Commander of the Join Chiefs of Staff’s priorities and the contingency Global Campaign Plans for INDOPACOM if they fuck around too hard. Give STRATCOM and SOCOM a good reason to let loose. The Fast Attacks need the target practice anyways.

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    If they’ll never compromise, they’ve already chosen war. They are just waiting for the right moment. US policy should focus on keeping that at bay.

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      I mean, imagine if a Chinese military force decided to occupy Hawaii for 60 years, after a bunch of Jan 6thers fled there and declared it independent by way of some Sovereign Citizen gibberish. Do you think there’s anyone in Washington who would be running on the “No big deal, let them have it” platform?

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    “China expressed its willingness to develop healthy and stable military-to-military relations with the United States on the basis of equality and respect,” said the defence ministry readout.

    In 2022, China refused to resume talks as a protest move after then US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi visited Taiwan in August 2022.

    Their resumption early this week follows a deal struck by Chinese president Xi Jinping and his US counterpart Joe Biden during a meeting in November.

    Separately, Taiwan has said it does not consider the launch of a Chinese satellite over the island’s southern airspace on Tuesday an act of election interference.

    Chinese state media said the satellite, named the Einstein Probe, is used to “observe mysterious transient phenomena”.

    The island’s main opposition party the Kuomintang (KMT) criticised the “arbitrary” use of an islandwide alert as fear-mongering.


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