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Because the very creation of Israel was a settler colonialist state ethnically cleansing the local population.
I would say their neighbours had plenty to be pissed off about.
Because the very creation of Israel was a settler colonialist state ethnically cleansing the local population.
I would say their neighbours had plenty to be pissed off about.
The article has actual sources that prove that US agression and also via their nato vassals is the cause of what happened in 2014 up until now.
When Russia tried to reach out to be more integrated with Western Europe they were continually rebuffed on orders from the US.
There was no reason for this of course, the USSR already dissolved. No reason besides the US trying to prevent a united Europe.
But anyway, i know you’re going to spew psychotic verbal diarrhea again, so I’m out.
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Apologies, it was the wrong article. This is the correct article:
https://responsiblestatecraft.org/russia-ukraine-nato-expansion/
Now kindly fuck off.
Cool, thanks for the links
Of course you won’t read any sources that contradict your world view.
Sure you know more than the people on the ground in the linked sources that you didn’t read.
And personally, i don’t even support Putin, but I can see the historical context leading up to 2014 and the current war.
But in your words, why the hell am I wasting my time explaining this to a nafo shill.
Damn, don’t project so hard.
A source, just for you. Not that i think you would even care about it:
https://responsiblestatecraft.org/new-us-strikes-yemen-houthis/
The article talks about NATO expansionism as the main cause for the flare ups in Ukraine and Russia, even before 2014. It has linked sources in the article.
https://responsiblestatecraft.org/new-us-strikes-yemen-houthis/
The article talks about NATO expansionism as the main cause for the flare ups in Ukraine and Russia, even before 2014. It has linked sources in the article.
But you do you mr “hopeless person”
Edit: the correct link: https://responsiblestatecraft.org/russia-ukraine-nato-expansion/
Yes
I was talking about the cyber crime/ espionage attacks.
And I’m pretty sure it’s the US plus assorted allies agression that is inflaming tensions around the world.
Enlighten us.
I’m being serious, not sarcastic, i really do want to know.
Is this the one where israeli soldiers said Monday to Sunday were terrorists lol.
What i don’t understand is how brazen they were. They just pointed to the calendar and said the days of the week were terrorist names without even censoring it and expected people to believe them. Like what level of hubris is this?
This reaction is exactly what Israel wants. For anti-zionist and anti-israeli views to be equated to anti-semitism, and to be censored as such.
You’re mistaken. We don’t have a hard on for the US and Israel.
The US: " we don’t want an escalation of tensions in the middle east." The US then proceeds to escalate tensions in the middle east.
It’s one of the most glaring examples of disconnect between what they’re saying and what they’re doing that I’ve seen.
The US is lying about their intent again to no one’s surprise.
As a South African too, i will remain proud of South Africa for bringing this case of genocide against Israel.
You talk about motivations , so why didn’t the US, UK or one of the European countries open a case of genocide against Israel?
If South Africa, with it’s all its flaws, was able to bring a case of genocide against Israel, what does that say of those countries that couldn’t do that. Those countries that purport to be defenders of human rights and freedom that are unable to mention crimes against humanity and Israel in the same sentence, let alone the word genocide.
This shows how despicable the motivations and thieving, murdering two-facedness of the US, UK and Europe are. The blatant hypocrisy and despicable motivations of these countries are far more damning than anything you accuse South Africa of.
The genocide convention is meant to be invoked when a group is at risk of genocide, before a genocide can be completed.
So yes, i will always be proud of South Africa for invoking the genocide convention against Israel, despite naysayers focusing on the imperfections of South Africa rather than the fact that South Africa is taking the correct course of action that is sorely needed despite it’s imperfections or motivations.
Immensely proud of South Africa
It’s no problem. Maybe i can also be more clear too in the future when replying.
It’s true that the Israeli citizens and the Palestinian citizens will have to be involved in a common solution. It will be very bitter, especially for the Palestinians, but one has to move forward
The settlers (aka colonolialist thieves and murderers) are literally killing, maiming, torturing Palestinians on their own land in the West Bank. Driving them out of their own houses, lands and farms. The Israeli army stands by and watches this. If any Palestinian tries to fight back against the settlers in the process of stealing their land they are maimed and/or murdered. And this is only in the West Bank where land theft and murder by the Israelis is still happening to this day. It doesn’t include any of the other clear land theft that had taken place in historic Palestine by the Israelis.
Now tell me that is not similar to the Apartheid police force breaking into houses in your area and telling you to move or be murdered, because your property now belongs the Apartheid state that is going to parcel it out to the white Apartheid supporting citizens.
Finding similarities between the atrocities commited by the Apartheid South African government and the Apartheid Israeli government is not adding my country’s baggage to a complex reality. A lot can be learnt by looking back at similar atrocities commited in the past and the repercussions of that, whay was learnt, etc.
Also an important point is that because of experiencing a similar repression of my people, parents, grandparents, and living through the tail end of that repression, i have empathy and some understanding of what the Palestinians are going through. I can’t claim to know exactly how they’re feeling but i do have some idea.
I have been campaigning in South Africa for Palestinian rights and self determination since i was a young teenager with my peers and my parents. I have been aware of the history, geopolitics and reality of the situation of the Palestinians since then. I have a pretty decent understanding of what is going on over there.
Every time you think these Israeli terrorists can’t get any worse they prove to the world that they can reach a new depraved low