You’re right, we should go with verifiable facts.

Just a reminder, this is the guy that promised a Brexit vote to stop his party from splitting in half, actually followed through with that promise, and pikachu faced when he got outplayed by his own party’s propaganda machine, then ran away to leave everybody else to deal with the mess.

No, that isn’t what I said. I said Hamas ignited the current disaster - which is one step in a whole series of disastrous moves by both the State of Israel and Hamas.

But to address your point of what are the Palestinians to do? There isn’t a nice clean answer for that because the burden of responsibility lies on both sides - moreso on the side with the greater power (so, Israel).

But terrorism isn’t helpful when it leads to the genocide of your people.

If Hamas hadn’t done October 7th, then a lot more innocent Israelis, Palestinians, and Gazans would still be alive today.

If you’re trying to suggest that it’s a means to an end… Well first of all, the ends do not justify the means. Second of all - what end exactly has Hamas helped achieve here?

I’m… really not sure what point you’re trying to make to me here, sorry.

Unless you’re trying to strawman me, in which case - why?

I’m sorry, I don’t follow what you’re trying to convey here.

That there is an even bigger picture than in my comment? Well, yes, of course. The Israel-Palestine situation is a hundred year old mess.

But how was my comment reductive as well? I didn’t lay the blame squarely at the feet of any one party, which is far closer to the truth than saying “It’s all Israel’s fault.”

And if you take contention with me being nuanced, please consider that by doing so you don’t actually do any favours to the conversation and therefore a peaceful resolution that is as fair as can possibly be achieved.

So, if it helps you come back to the table, please know that I absolutely think what Israel is doing is appalling and they have an obscene power disparity over the Palestinian people and are abusing that wholesale - when they could use it to create peace.

Now I’m no supporter of Israel’s genocide in Gaza, but your statement is way too reductive.

The current disaster in Gaza was ignited by Hamas on October 7th, no doubt at the encouragement of Iran. And yes, Israel definitely bears a significant amount of responsibility for creating the tinder box that October 7th sparked, and also has certainly fanned the flames with enthusiasm.

But responsibility for the escalation and continuation of the situation rests also on Iran, on Hamas and the Houthis, and also to a lesser degree on the US and other Western allies that enable Israel.

Um, no, not really.

See, I thought both of your positions were somewhat reasonable and I think it’s a shame you blocked someone for disagreeing with you.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-messenger-bias-and-credibility/

Has it at ‘mixed credibility’.

Is this story for any reason significantly different from Russian State TV sabre-rattling designed to placate and enthuse a Russian audience?

God I’m so glad I never see hexbears.

Source for those numbers?

Because both Hamas and Israel have reason to inflate the number of fighters.

But the end result is the platform influences voters leading to election of those or similar individuals.

That’s not really true, unfortunately. People don’t need to be in an elected position to be given a platform by media.

So, the societal problem is created when bad faith actors are given a platform, right? But bad faith actors tend to be great at generating outrage and division and thus drive engagement and clicks - which makes money for the platforms.

How do we solve this?

I don’t know whether it had a significant impact in Russia, but the rest of the world only knows/cares about the guy because he went back. Otherwise he’d just be yet another person murdered by Putin’s regime.

Martyrdom. Navalny knew what it would mean to return; he also knew the risk of not returning (constantly trying to avoid shitty assassination attempts with collateral damage).