Russian President Vladimir Putin is urging Russians to have more children. 
"Large families must become the norm," Putin said in a speech Tuesday. 
Russian birth rates are falling amid war in Ukraine and a deepening economic crisis. 

Russian President Vladimir Putin is urging women to have as many as eight children as the number of dead Russian soldiers continues to rise in his war with Ukraine, worsening the country’s population crisis.

Addressing the World Russian People’s Council in Moscow on Tuesday, Putin said the country must return to a time when large families were the norm.

“Many of our grandmothers and great-grandmothers, had seven, eight, or even more children,” Putin said.

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      11 months ago

      Looked up. It is order of coutry that no longer exists. It is impossible to get one.

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        Maybe not exactly, but… https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Heroine

        Mother Heroine (Russian: Мать-героиня, Mat’-geroinya) is an honorary title that was used in the Soviet Union and now Russia, awarded for bearing and raising a large family.

        On 15 August 2022 Vladimir Putin signed a decree reviving the honorary title.[2]

        Also Putins intent is to turn Russia back into the Soviet Union so it’s not at all surprising he’s re-using things like this.

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          Do not really see a problem with this one. Don’t most countries recognize families with X number of children and give some benefits? It doesn’t immediately mean everyone starts having 10 children families.

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            I know that in America they recognize it in the form of “thanks for the worker, here is financial assistance for diapers/food/etc if you meet under the poverty line of household income so your kids don’t clog up our hospital system with your uninsured, diaper-rash-turned-infection starving children, and have some child care tax credits either way.”**

            In Sweden I think every newborn comes home with a huge box of diapers clothes formula if needed etc. And I think it’s a monthly box for X number of months.

            But large families aren’t looked at as a status symbol like they’re trying to make happen in Russia, and as it was in the Soviet Union. Literal Military Metals of Honor 3 levels deep for the amount of children you had (Level 1 was highest honor, level 3 was lowest).

            **Except maybe for some certain sects of certain religions, like some of Catholicism and Mormonism. But that’s for more messengers to spread the word of Jesus/Joseph Smith. That’s all the frame of reference I have.

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              Actual medal does seem weird, true. I think I have heard Finland having a similar care package, sounds pretty cool and probably the best option to first of all guarantee parents do not get a monetary allowance that could be spent elsewhere, booze for example.

              Looked into my country laws and in Latvia you get a monthly allowance based on total count of children up to realistically 18 or 20 years (depends if you continue education)

              • one child - EUR 25 per month
              • two - EUR 100 per month (EUR 50 for each child);
              • three - EUR 225 per month (EUR 75 for each child);
              • four and more children - EUR 100 per month for each child.

              If you have 3+ kids you also can get a card that has benefits / reduced cost for various services.

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    Let’s keep going until there’s a 1:39 male to female ratio. That’d be ideal. Not strange at all.

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      Let’s keep going until there’s a 1:39 male to female ratio. That’d be ideal. Not strange at all.

      It’s not about the ratio, it’s about a total amount of bodies, regardless of gender, available to run/work the country, in the future generations.

      They already took a big hit in World War II, and they’re taking another hit now, and most nations taking two pop hits in a row don’t recover well.

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        I mean, with Russia, it seems like it’s just been constant: WW1, revolution, WW2, Stalin’s reign, now this.

        If anything, rather than WW2 and this being “in a row”, that time frame includes probably the biggest gap in the past century without a grievous population loss.

        For as much as we (Americans) regard Russia (as a state) with an adversarial eye, as far as Russians (the actual common people) are concerned, I kinda feel for them. Seems like their entire history is dominated by difficulty, hardship, and death.

        Then again maybe that impression is precisely the impression that the American education system has very carefully cultivated…

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          If anything, rather than WW2 and this being “in a row”, that time frame includes probably the biggest gap in the past century without a grievous population loss.

          I’m speaking towards actual graphs I’ve seen before from education videos (RealLifeLore, etc.) on the subject that show specific peaks in population drops following war, and how they affect Russia directly.

          I wasn’t trying to elaborate on the whole history of Russia, just that they’ve had large population drops because of death via war.

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    Ordinary Western and US propaganda - no matter what Putin may do, it’s a sign of his weakness. Whether he eats ice cream, smiles, fucks women, sleeps, urges the women to give birth to more children, washes his teeth or itches his left shoulder – it’s a proof that he’s weak.

    In reality, he’s ever stronger and supported by the russians – thanks to none other than the West and US.

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        Wow. Defending Boris Jonson, Ze and Biden is akin defending Adolf Hitler. They’ve already killed over a milltion of ukranians by sending them to the russian meatgrinder. And they’ve made UA complitely dependent on their own financial aid.