Only D&D fans don’t want to hear “play a game better suited to what you want to do”

That said, I’d recommend Runequest over WFRP any day of the week, and twice on weekends

Did you have some really specific things you wanted out of your game?

Just play GURPS.

Grognards are people that play old war gaming systems and complain about new things.

They’re exactly the sort of person that wants to hear “play Warhammer Fantasy.”

Changeling: the Dreaming fan here. Our system is better suited to the roleplay side of things, several sessions can go by without a single combat, and it’s not the core focus of the system.

Haha, Mörk Borg go brrrr

Edit: any system that’s described as “a pitch-black, apocalyptic TTRPG” and uses “scum” in place of “player characters” is ok by me.

FFS, the official tagline is “a doom metal album of a game. A spiked flail to the face. Light on rules, heavy on everything else;” what more do you fellow grimdank dorks want?

:gestures at the entire OSR community:

It’s not gritty unless character creation includes backup/multiple characters

I love my WFRP campaign. I’m playing a noble’s servant who got sent on a dangerous quest by his lord to “man him up a little,” and he wound up getting mixed up with a party is complete nutcase. The rules have an odd kind of crunch to them - there’s tons of details for combat, but my GM says there’s basically no encounter design guidelines, for example. Still, it’s a great time and I can’t recommend it enough.

We as a society have evolved beyond the need for dungeons and dragons /hj